The Scar - 'All or Nothing' Clarification

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 160272

---  "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> bboyminn wrote:
> > 
> > Here is where I think you are wrong. Harry would not
> > be a Squib. I would be a once magically powerful 
> > person who made the ultimate sacrific to save the 
> > wizard world from oppression and tyranny. ...
> > 
> > Harry would be the Hero of the Wizard World, ...
> > 
> > Harry would still have a very special place in the 
> > wizard world because while he was magical, he did 
> > great magical deeds. <snip>
> 
> > Don't get me wrong, his life as a non-magical person 
> > would be very very bittersweet, ...
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > I'm not even convinced Harry will lose his magic 
> > power, but it is a theory, and I was responding 
> > within the framework of that premise. There are 
> > plenty of Muggle/Magic marriages in the wizard world,
> > and they seem to work. They seem to reach some 
> > compromise between the two worlds. I don't see any 
> > reason why Harry can't do the same.
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> 
> Carol responds:
> I can see Harry losing the powers that he acquired 
> from Voldemort, but why would he lose those he was born
> with (and we know that he was born magical because his 
> name was written down by the Hogwarts quill at the
> moment of his birth)?
> 
> Also, I don't know where you get the idea that there 
> are plenty of Muggle marriages to witches or wizards. 
> I know of three: ...
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> As for loss of powers, we've only seen it happen 
> temporarily through unrequited love. ... Assuming that
> Harry doesn't succumb to despair (and how likely is 
> that?) I don't think he'll lose his powers (except 
> Parseltongue; the connection to the now-deadVoldemort;
> and possession if, as I suspect, he has that power 
> along with the others).
> 
> Carol, ...

bboyminn: (responding in general)

I will once again bring everyone's notice to the paragraph
above that I highlighted with stars ('*'). I don't
personally believe that Harry will lose his powers. What I
am objecting to and responding to is the 'all or nothing'
approach that people who /do/ believe this are taking.

Yes, we only have three or four specified pure-muggle/
magic marriages, but that is because they are somewhat
significant to the minor story, but their existance
implies many more. I do agree that muggle-born/magic
are more common than pure-muggle/magic, but none the
less, it is clear that pure-muggle/magic marriages to
exist.

Back to the main point, what I object to is the idea that
/IF/ Harry loses his powers, that he will be completely
cut off from the magical world. I don't think so. He
will still have his friends, he will still have access to
their world. Admittedly it will be painful for Harry to 
have to do this, to have been so magically important and
to now be dependant on others for magic. But being
dependant on others for magic doesn't mean Harry will
suddenly be helpless, pointless, or worthless. He is 
still quite capable, as we all are, of boiling a pot
of water for tea. He is not going to starve. He is not
going to go around in tattered clothes. He is not going
to wander the streets alone and homeless. He /is/ still
perfectly capable of, and certainly will have, a normal
productive life.

Being non-magical and being associated with the magical
world are not mutually exclusive. Look at the Dursleys,
as much as they try with all their might to disassociate
themselves with the magical world, they can't escape it;
the magical world intrudes on their lives all the time. 

So, my objection is to the idea that /IF/ Harry loses his
magic that he will become this isolated wreak of a human
living in cold isolation and dispare (slightly overstated).

Painful as it is, Harry is perfectly able to remain
integrated into the magical world. Further, given that
Harry, over a decade later, is still known as 'The Boy
Who Lived', I don't think the wizard world is so short
sighted that they would forget the great sacrifice that
Harry made for them. 

Again, for the record, I don't think Harry will lose his
powers, but /if/ he does, that certainly doesn't mean he 
will be completely cut off from the wizard world as some
people seem to imply. I think we have sufficient evidence
to the contrary. Finally, Harry will still be able to 
live a perfectly normal and productive life if he loses 
his powers.

Just trying to clarify.

Steve/bboyminn