[HPforGrownups] They had to know about PP (WAS Re: Secret Keeper of Grimmaud Place)

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 160544



> Potioncat:
>> Now, the only reason Harry knows that DD is the secret keeper for 
>> headquarters is because Moody says, "Here's a note from DD." He
> could have said, here's a note from the secret keeper and it would
> have worked. I suspect he could have said, here's a note from Mickey
> Mouse and it would have worked. I do think the SK has to has a
> specific person in mind for the note or it won't work. I don't think
> the reader has to know who the SK was.

> Carol responds:
> I don't think so. Mad-Eye made sure that the note with the secret
> written on it was destroyed as soon as Harry read it. Apparently,
> anyone who picked it up and read it would be able to see 12 GP even if
> they didn't know what the OoP was. And if a Death Eater or one of
> their allies happened to see it, or even an MoM employee who was
> looking for Sirius Black, there would be trouble.
> 
> I don't think, however, that Dumbledore knew about the Godric's Hollow
> hideout from a note. I think that he had known about it before the
> secret was placed inside PP, then magically "forgot" it. When he awoke
> knowing the secret, he knew that the spell had been broken and that
> the Potters had been betrayed and were probably dead. I think that
> Snape must have shown him his faded Dark Mark, which meant that Harry
> had somehow defeated Voldemort and must be alive.
> 
> I realize that I'm only speculating, but I don't see how he could have
> known or guessed that the Potters were dead and Harry needed to be
> rescued if he already knew the secret. Something must have happened to
> alert.
> 
> Carol, imagining both Dumbledore and Snape waking up from nightmares
> and Snape running up eight flights of stairs in his grey nightshirt to
>  find Dumbledore at work with his mysterious instruments

   KJ writes:

      That is a good point regarding the destruction of the note.  I 
forgot that Moody destroyed the note, or I might have just thought that 
it was Moody's paranoia showing.

      I suspect that Dumbledore's knowledge of the events at Godric's 
Hollow was as the direct result of being told about it by someone, 
probably Snape. There are hints that someone else was at Godric's 
Hollow.  As soon as Dumbledore was told, he set things in motion for 
damage control and Hagrid was sent for Harry.  It seems to me that he 
already knew that Harry was still alive, while his parents were known to 
be dead.  Harry was retrieved before "the Muggles got there" which would 
imply a very quick response. The only reason Sirius arrived was because 
he could not find Peter and was concerned.

KJ