They had to know about PP (WAS Re: Secret Keeper of Grimmaud Place)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 160659

Carol earlier:
> > [...]
> > I don't think, however, that Dumbledore knew about the Godric's 
> Hollow hideout from a note. I think that he had known about it
before the secret was placed inside PP, then magically "forgot" it.
When he awoke knowing the secret, he knew that the spell had been
broken and that the Potters had been betrayed and were probably dead.
I think that Snape must have shown him his faded Dark Mark, which
meant that Harry had somehow defeated Voldemort and must be alive.
> >
> > I realize that I'm only speculating [...]
> 
Eddie responded:
> I've got a problem with this scenario. I infer from it that the
> secret keeper's secret can be broken and I think canon is opposed to
> that. For instance, we know that if the secret keeper dies, the
> secret dies with him. But does that mean that if the
> person/place/thing that the secret is about is killed/destroyed, then
> the secret is broken? In addition, even though Lily and James are
> dead and the house at Godric Hollow is destroyed, Harry is still
> alive. Wouldn't the secret continue? Or (yet a 3rd alternative!)
> maybe Harry wasn't explicitly mentioned in the secret. Or (yet a 4th
> alternative!) JKR was a bit inconsistent. <snip>

ibchawz responded:
> 
> Another possibility that I have seen on this list would be that the 
> Fidelius Charm would be broken when Peter Pettigrew ratted (pun 
> intended) the secret to Voldemort.  The Potters were no longer 
> protected from Voldemort by the secret after PP told Voldemort.  To 
> state it in another way, Peter's infidelity broke the Fidelius 
> Charm.  Of course, this is speculation on my part, since there is no 
> canon to support the breaking of the Fidelius Charm in any fashion.
<snip>

Carol again:

Yes, that's essentially what I think. The name of the charm provides
the clue: fidelis -e [trusty , steadfast, faithful]; m. as subst.,
esp. pl., [confidants, faithful friends]. Adv. fideliter, [faithfully;
securely, without danger]. fidelitas -atis f. [faithfulness , trust,
fidelity]. http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookup.pl?stem=fidel&ending=

So, essentially, to break the faith placed in him as Secret Keeper by
revealing it to the very person the secret was supposed to protect the
Potters from broke the spell. Of course, by the time that Voldemort
kills James and Lily and the house blows up, there is no secret left
to keep. "The Potters are hiding in [address] Godric's Hollow" is
simply no longer true. they'er not hiding anywhere. Two are dead and
one can be found by anyone who comes by, even a Muggle, which is why
Hagrid had to get there even before Sirius Black (who already knew the
secret and therefore couldn't be alerted by suddenly knowing it again)
or anyone else arrived.

I believe that Godric's Hollow, or rather the particular cottage in
that village where the Potters were hiding, had been provided to them
by Dumbledore, who, IMO, is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor, if not
the Heir of Gryffindor per se. (Also explains the Fawkes connection,
BTW--note Fawkes's colors--, and DD's possession of the Sword of
Gryffindor.)

At any rate, the secret being revealed has nothing to do with whether
the SK is alive (Wormtail is thought dead a bit later, but that's
irrelevant). It has to do with the secret being first
breached--fidelity violated--and then the elements of the secret (the
Potters and their hiding place) either ceasing to exist or ceasing to
be protected. Essentially, the moment Wormtail betrays the Potters,
the secret is no longer a secret. Either then or when the house was
blown up, the charm failed altogether.

Just my opinion.

Carol, who has to get off the computer now