CHAPDISC: HBP 23, Horcruxes

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Oct 30 18:17:33 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 160662

Debbie:
<snip>
> Dumbledore goes on to note the most sinister aspect of the 
> diary:  "But there could be no doubt that Riddle really wanted that 
> diary read, wanted the piece of his soul to inhabit or possess 
> somebody else, so that Slytherin's monster would be unleashed 
> again."
> 
> In other words, it was not the memory that was unique about the 
> Diary horcrux.  It was that Tom had devised a means of accessing 
> the soul within. I see no evidence that the other soul bits do (or 
> did) not include memories.  The difference is that there is no way 
> to access them; they are too well encased.

<more snip>

> The Harrycrux theory is the only explanation that I have every 
> found satisfying, because it doesn't make sense to me that powers 
> exist apart from the owner of the powers, which means that they are 
> either connected to the body or the spirit, or soul.

<snip, snip, snippety-snip>

> Except that in CoS Voldemort wasn't strong at all, and he was far 
> away, in Albania.  Moreover, recognizing Riddle's name is a 
> cognitive act, whereas the Dark Mark is just a specialized Protean 
> Charm.  I don't recall that Harry's scar was bothering him so much 
> in CoS, so I'm not sure that would explain why Harry recognized 
> Riddle's name.


SSSusan:
Forgive my coming in so late to this discussion, only to insert 
questions. :)  But reading Debbie's thoughts, I became curious.  

If you've explained all this before, please forgive me for asking, 
but are you suggesting that *each* of the horcruxes contains not only 
a soul bit but also a memory of Riddle? and that perhaps the reason 
Tom Riddle's name is familiar to Harry is that not only is there a 
horcrux in Harry, but there's a *memory* of Tom's in there, too?

If there is... wow, I wonder what form it might take? what it might 
consist of? would it be a specific memory or, like the diary, more of 
an entire particular age of Tom Riddle?  I'm especially curious 
since, IIRC, doesn't JKR describe what Harry has as a feeling that he 
knew the name, "like a long lost friend" or some such phrase?  Makes 
one wonder what kind of memory might be there....

Siriusly Snapey Susan







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