What Came First: Task or Cabinet? - The Plan v1 & v2/Bigotry or Not?

[snow15145]

No: HPFGUIDX 157701



Magpie:
I'm relating the events of the book. You claimed that when Draco 
made the attempts to kill DD with the necklace and poison it was 
half-hearted because he was "more interested in the cabinets." You 
then said that this was because he had yet to actually be informed 
of his actual mission, that mission being to kill DD. Which 
unravels the plot, because that's the mission Snape has agreed to do 
if Draco fails at it--and it's also what Draco is trying to do with 
the poison and the necklace. If he hasn't been informed of his real 
mission of killing DD and is just fixing the cabinet, he wouldn't be 
trying to kill DD in alternate ways. It also veers away from the 
central act of the story, which is committing murder and splitting 
the soul. It replaces the character's emotional arc, which is what 
it leads to in the book (ending with the choice) and which is talked 
about and dramatized in the book with a series of complications 
external both to Draco and to the text. The whole conversation at 
the end with Dumbledore is about exactly how Draco's heart wasn't in 
it and why. He's not a killer.


Snow:

Ok I see where you are going. You defiantly are a person who believes 
what Faith has to say, the problem is sometimes Faith can be a bit 
tricky and make a person believe something as confirmed, when it 
really hasn't been. 

You see, at Spinner's End, Snape never agreed to killing Dumbledore 
if Draco failed to, Snape agreed to "carry out the deed that the Dark 
Lord has ordered Draco to perform". 

Wording is everything with JKR. We will naturally assume that what 
was meant by this particular wording was to kill Dumbledore since 
that is what inevitably happened but you can never be totally certain 
because this is where the author can make her twist. (Leading you to 
the obvious conclusion is Faith's diversion) 

To truly understand what I'm attempting to get across to you, you 
would have to open your mind and allow suspicion to enter. Be 
suspicious of Faith and question wording that could also be 
interpreted with another suggestion, a twisty outcome, like what we 
have been proposing (although this suggestion isn't all conclusive, 
there are others). 

Some of the unanswered questions in HBP, for instance are, why Snape 
not only voluntarily took the vow but actually initiated it; why was 
Snape asleep when the castle is in an uproar and Dumbledore is out 
leaving The Order in charge in his stead? 

Snape is part of the Order, why was he sleeping or feigning sleep

another good unanswered question that was not satisfied. 

Ok, try this on for a possible substitute for the `plan' Narcissa 
speaks of; Draco is to find a way in which to penetrate the castle so 
that his deatheaters can dispose of Dumbledore. 

This actually fits because Narcissa would still be concerned for her 
baby if he failed this plan; Snape could honestly take the vow 
without hesitation, because Dumbledore could allow the castle 
protected entry; and it would be the answer as to why Snape was 
sleeping instead of on watch like the rest of the Order
Was he 
expecting company? 

This would also fit with Draco's secret obsession with the cabinets 
and why Draco's attempt at killing Dumbledore with the necklace or 
mead was a bust or as Dumbledore put it, "your heart wasn't in it". 

You see Faith can be as wrong as Sirius being the bad guy or Mad Eye 
Moody being good in GOF and yet most of us fell for the trap. There 
is entrapment in the books, which is why they are so damned good but 
it is, more often than naught, Faith who leads us into the trap. 

I finally learned with OOP, after several attempts of throwing the 
book against the wall and refusing to read further (for several 
minutes) to simply accept that JKR has her answer and I have to be 
open to it. 

You know this thread has made me recall a likewise thread before HBP 
when people were totally debating Dumbledore's possible abusive 
behavior by leaving Harry with the Dursley's. So many were quite sure 
that Dumbledore had actions he could have taken other than leave him 
with the Dursley's and yet no matter how many of us proposed what 
became the eventual outcome that it was Dumbledore's only and best 
choice, Faith intervened in her magical way and convinced so many 
that Dumbledore was cruel to leave Harry with them. 

As this thread is similar to what I've just spoke of, I might agree 
that its outcome will be similar and that no matter how hard any of 
us may try only Faith will be able to enlighten you in the end. 

Snow