[HPforGrownups] Re: Cabinet FIRST!

[Magpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 157868

> Mike:
What on earth made him think
> that Voldemort would lend him some DEs to complete his plan? This is
> an integral part of the Cabinet plan and this must come to him
> before "Draco's Detour", the first Saturday in August. How does
> Draco make the leap of kill D-dore to fix cabinet without the added
> piece of introducing DEs? And if Voldemort doesn't know about the
> cabinets and therefore Draco's Cabinet plan, who told Draco he gets
> DEs to secret into Hogwarts?

Magpie:
He's quite possibly using DE backup for the necklace plan too--he wasn't in 
Hogsmeade that day so somebody else was involved.  Maybe the mead as well, 
perhaps someone else is Imperius-ing Rosemerta.  If he's just been given DE 
help regardless that fits with the way Draco is in charge of the DEs when 
they get to the school.

Mike:
We both agree that JKR just writes C to follow A and that's as much effort 
as she puts into timeline. So, how does 'kill Dumbledore' follow 'fix the 
cabinet' without the "B" of 'I get DE support'? Likewise, how does 'give the 
kid DEs' follow 'assign the kid a suicide mission' without the interceding 
idea of 'getting the DEs into Hogwarts'? These are two interlocking 
questions. They cannot be answered seperately.

Magpie:
They don't have to be answered separately if we go to the simple answer 
(conveniently provided for us in canon) that it's all part of fulfilling 
Voldemort's original order to kill Dumbledore.  A DE can Imperio Rosemerta, 
Imperio Katie or provide backup at the end. So LV does have motive to assign 
the DEs without the Cabinets specifically.  Whether Voldemort *knows* about 
the Cabinet plot as a possibility doesn't matter.  He can know about the 
possibility, it's just, imo, not Voldemort's big plan that he's forcing 
Draco to do. If Draco never gets the Cabinet fixed he's got to do something 
else.

Carol:
Draco's comment to Moaning Myrtle (essentially "I can't do it and he says 
he's going to kill me") almost certainly refers to the cabinet. Voldemort 
wants it repaired and Draco still hasn't done it after seven
months

Magpie:
I think it just as almost certainly refers to LV killing Draco if he doesn't 
kill Dumbledore by any means and that LV couldn't care less if a Cabinet 
gets fixed in the process or not.

-m