Cabinet FIRST!

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 157875

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Magpie" <belviso at ...> wrote:
> <snip the first part>

> > Mike previously:
> > We both agree that JKR just writes C to follow A and that's as  
> > much effort as she puts into timeline. So, how does 'kill  
> > Dumbledore' follow 'fix the cabinet' without the "B" of 'I get  
> > DE support'? Likewise, how does 'give the kid DEs' follow 
> > 'assign the kid a suicide mission' without the interceding 
> > idea of 'getting the DEs into Hogwarts'? These are two  
> > interlocking questions. They cannot be answered seperately.
> 
> Magpie:
> They don't have to be answered separately if we go to the simple  
> answer (conveniently provided for us in canon) that it's all part  
> of fulfilling Voldemort's original order to kill Dumbledore.  A   
> DE can Imperio Rosemerta, Imperio Katie or provide backup at the  
> end. So LV does have motive to assign the DEs without the Cabinets 
> specifically.  Whether Voldemort *knows* about the Cabinet plot as 
> a possibility doesn't matter.  He can know about the possibility,
> it's just, imo, not Voldemort's big plan that he's forcing Draco
> to do. If Draco never gets the Cabinet fixed he's got to do  
> something else.

Mike now:
Sorry, not an answer to my question. Let's try this with role 
playing. You are Voldemort with your premise, that is, this is 
simply, specifically and ONLY a 'suicide mission' for Draco. You 
summon Draco in and give him the "kill Dumbledore" mission and tell 
him to do it any way he wants, you don't care. Why do you give him 
any DE support, now or ever? You have to stay within your premise 
when you answer, which is that you expect the boy to die in the 
attempt and you *expect* NOTHING else to come of this mission. 
According to your premise, this is exactly where we are at the 
beginning of HBP. Once again, the question is why do you give Draco 
any support, now or ever?

As a matter of netiquette, I thought we were suppose to put in 
a "<snip>" if we truncated another poster's paragraph. I don't have 
a problem if you leave out entire paragraphs without putting a snip 
in as long as what you leave in conveys the essence of the poster's 
remarks for which you are responding. Thank you for your support<g>

Mike