Teaching Styles / Sorting Hat

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 157897

> Shaun:
> It isn't Snape's job or role to 'reach' Neville. It is his role and 
job to 
> 'teach' Neville. They are not the same thing at all. 
> 
> It would be nice if Snape was able to 'reach' Neville, but the 
simple fact 
> is that virtually all teachers have some students they cannot reach 
> effectively. <SNIP> And when it doesn't happen - when a teacher 
cannot 'reach' a child should 
> they just give up on 'teaching' the child as well? In my view, 
while it's 
> wonderful to do both, if you can't manage one, then trying to 
accomplish the 
> other is still worth while. 
> 
> I've been teaching a class of 26 recently. With 25 of the children, 
I had 
> absolutely no problem getting them to learn without having to 
resort to any 
> real unpleasantness. But #26 was a different matter. Nothing I 
tried worked 
> with him - and I tried quite a few different things - until I 
started taking 
> a heavily punitive approach. Basically, I found myself forced to 
scare the 
> poor kid in order to get him to take care and pay attention to 
instructions 
> in class. And that works with this kid. 

Alla:

The only problem is that in my view Snape did not try with Neville at 
all, and that is if I am giving him my most charitable attitude - 
namely that he is trying to teach him something and not just enjoys 
seeing the boy in pain .

IMO Snape signed Neville off as "idiot boy" from the very first 
lesson. I don't see him trying **any** other things to teach Neville 
before he resorts to scare tactics and that I call pure lasiness on 
his behalf. That is again if he is thinking about teaching Neville at 
all.

I don't know how old the kids you teach now, but I am assuming that 
if parents of that kid will tell you that he has nightmares where you 
feature prominently, you would stop teaching him, no? I said many 
times that "boggart" to me is the metaphor of person nightmares, so 
to answer your question - yes, if child has to pay such a price for 
education ( and from our past discussions you know how much I value 
education), if the price for that education is child's emotional 
health, the price for such education is too high IMO. This is of 
course only my view and you said it yourself that scare tactics work 
for the kid you teach, I guess it is great,but my main point is that 
I don't see Snape trying any other tactics to teach Neville, except 
scaring him and humiliating him.

Oh, and I don't see that it works for him either. Somebody argued in 
the past that in GoF we don't see Neville having such huge problems 
with Potions, so supposedly that lesson taught him something.

I manage completely forgot about that detention with "cutting horned 
toads" - paraphrase, so I disagree that the "Trevor" lesson helped 
Neville, I think it just scared him more.


JMHO,

Alla, who likes more and more Snape's ending up as teaching assistant 
to Neville as the most delightful punishment for Snape.