Cabinet FIRST!

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>Sydney: 
>So I'm being adamant here that 'Cabinet first' is extremely 
>different
>*story-wise* from 'Suicide mission', even if it may not seem that
>different *plot-wise*.<snip>
>Joe was
>thirsting for pay-back, and so he went to the Mob, but then it all
>went pear-shaped and he got in over his head". "So Joe was thirsting
>for revenge, and so when the Mob came and made him this offer he was
>thrilled, but the poor sap didn't know that..." is a different 
>story.
>You wouldn't leave out the part that Joe actually went to the mob.
>It's where the story hinges.

>For that reason, I find it extremely hard-- in fact, impossible-- to
>believe a writer, especially a writer like Rowling, would leave it
>out.


Orna:
I agree only partly. The ways I imagine it could happen together.

I can easily imagine Draco boasting to Voldemort – eager to rent his 
services for him to show loyalty after Lucius was disgraced. He 
would think the service is just helping Des enter Hogwarts. 
Voldemort would twist it devilishly towards this kill-Dumbledore 
mission. So it's cabinet-first turning into suicide mission. 

I can also imagine quite easily Voldemort luring Draco into this 
mission, this tricky way or the other - cabinet being just one means 
to the end.  I must confess I can't see Voldemort just reaching 
openly out for Draco – he would somehow make it seem to Draco – that 
it's his volunteering. That's because I think that`s how Voldemort 
acts – if he doesn't imperius the person – he acts on some act of 
initial volunteering. 

I don't think it's very important for JKR to mention it, if Draco 
approached Voldemort. If Voldemort approached Draco – it would need 
mentioning, and I agree that it alters the story. As it is, the 
story is told so that nobody has difficulty in believing that Malfoy 
wants to join the Des. Hermione doubts whether Voldemort would use a 
teenager – but not that Draco would like to join. Dumbledore doesn't 
ask – how the hell did you come to get such a task. It seems quite 
assumed that Draco joined voluntarily, proudly, and during the 
process discovers slowly "the bitter pill" - he is not built to be a 
killer, or a DE. Had he been approached by Voldemort, and just 
agreed (even happily) his lesson or potential transformation 
wouldn't be so bitter, or even important And I think that Dumbledore 
would check this point out – as he did with Fenrir being invited. 
The starting point is IMO - you think you are a killer, you began to 
follow this path - slowly you have to admit that you were wrong 
about yourself. It's taking responsibilities on your choices, which 
would be weakened if his choice would be being tempted or threatened 
by Voldemort to join. Dumbledore doesn't tell him when he wants to 
show him he is not a killer "You didn't even ask for this job".

But it might be mentioned in book 7 – perhaps in connection with 
Regulus. Somehow Draco's joining Des and learning that it's 
different (and that he is different) from what he imagined – reminds 
me of what Sirius said about Regulus. So if Regulus is RAB, and his 
story is told – Draco might be there also in a way.

Orna