Harry as a Non-crux - Soul Pieces with a Twist

Ken Hutchinson klhutch at sbcglobal.net
Sat Sep 9 22:06:56 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 158101

> bboyminn:
> 
> Well, you are extending Slughorns statement with a lot of
> suppositions that the book does not support. 

Ken:

I would say that I am not extending Slughorn's statement at 
all. Slughorn says you cannot die for part of your soul remains
earthbound and undamaged. Part, not all. And Slughorn gives
no other conditions, just that part remain earthbound and 
undamaged. I am not extending that I am merely pointing 
out that in the Slughorn view the part of the soul in the horcrux
is enough to keep you alive. As he stated it the fate of what
you call the core soul is immaterial and he does not specify 
it. If Slughorn is correct, the "you" that remains alive *has*
to be something other than the core soul since the fate of 
the core soul is not discussed. That is not me extending 
Slughorn's statement, those are the logical consequences of
it. And, yes, it is *quite* possible that this escaped the author
when she wrote those words.

> bboyminn:
> > 
> That said, here is one reason why I don't support any
> Harry-the Horcrux theories. It is Dumbledore that brings
> us the knowledge of the scar connection and the transfer
> of some of Voldemort's powers to Harry, and he seems to
> have given it serious thought. It is Dumbledore who brings
> us expanded knowledge and importance of the Horcruxes, and
> he seems to have given this a great deal of thought and
> study.
> 
> Am I to believe that Dumbledore with his deep and superior
> knowledge couldn't put two and two together and arrive at
> the same conclusion that many fans have? 

Ken:

What this fan suspects is that DD put two and two together and
concluded that Harry was not ready to hear the truth yet so he
did not tell him but may have planted inconsistencies that will
alert Harry or at least the brains of the trio to this fact later on.
If Harry is a horcrux I think DD was well aware of that during
his conversation about them with Harry. It is just like DD to 
withold vital information until it is almost too late.


> > Ken:
> >
> > ... Lily was a smart woman. Maybe Harry is a horcrux but
> > *not* an accidental horcrux. Maybe the spell that Lily
> > invoked to protect Harry also made him a horcrux. ...
> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> I won't discount the possibility that Lily invoked some
> type of magic at some point to protect Harry, but how
> could she possibly have invoked a Horcrux? She would need
> to transfer a piece of Harry's soul to do it, and how
> could she do that? Not likely that a one year old has a
> lot of broken soul-bits laying around.
> 

Ken:

No, you missed the point. My wacky theory du jour is that 
Lily created a horcrux for LV using a bit of his soul, in 
Harry's scar. She was dead when that actually happened
so it would had to have been part of the "magical contract"
she invoked when she made her deal with LV. This is not
a general purpose protection, it only protects once. The 
irony is that LV is the attacker who is most likely to attempt 
to kill Harry and he would thereby kill a portion of his own soul, 
possibly the last remaining bit and would then be killing himself.
Again. Delicious, no?

I admit that it is wacky in the extreme, yet the little we 
know at this point about horcruxes does not preclude it. 

Ken







More information about the HPforGrownups archive