More thoughts on the Cloak

[abergoat]

No: HPFGUIDX 158503

Cassy wrote:
> It would fit the whole atmosphere of bitter irony
> (like Harry forgetting about Sirius's mirror) and also
> the thread of father-son tragedies (Riddle Sr.
> rejecting his son which leads to him turning evil,
> Crouch Sr. doing the same to his own).

Abergoat:
Loved this....

aussie wrote:
> We don't know how much time passed between James dying and the 
> Longbottoms being attacked.

Abergoat:
No one ever buys my argument but Dumbledore says they were attacked
'just as people started to feel safe'. I argue that people felt very
safe the day Harry was brought to Privet Drive. They are showing
themselves to muggles and setting off fireworks...

aussie wrote:
> Did we hear if they were captured and taken somewhere, or was this a 
> house break-in and the torture went on in their home. If so, could 
> Neville have been under James' IC. A last act of Alice's to save her 
> son from being a part of the attack.

Very interesting thought about Neville under the cloak, given Bella's
cruelty I always did think it was bizarre she didn't try to torture
Neville to get Frank and Alice to talk. 
 
Carol wrote:
If Barty Jr. was innocent, how do you explain his fanatical loyalty to
Voldemort and his frequent, eager use of Unforgiveable Curses, not
only on spiders, but on his own students (Imperius curse), on Krum
(Imperius curse) and on his own father (Avada Kedavra)?

Abergoat:
I didn't claim Barty Jr. wasn't a loyal Death Eater, 
although I'm not sure he was at the age of 19 (Regulus 
Black seems to have joined without realizing what he 
was in for..). Thirteen(?) years under Imperius might 
twist someone's personality quite throughly. And 
killing his father? No problem, his father's failure 
to believe him destroyed his life. As for Krum? Why 
didn't Barty Jr just kill Cedric, Fleur and Krum to
ensure Harry got to the cup first? And if they got 
there first, who cares? Voldemort would just kill them. 
Everything points to Barty Jr not wanting to kill more 
people than necessary. Not exactly a Bella duplicate.

JKR lays out GoF to suggest that Barty Jr got the 
strength to throw off Imperius by seeing 'free' Death 
Eaters parade around at the World Cup. Barty's life has 
been a tragedy...and I bet he had done a lot less than 
those people. I found it telling that what Barty Jr wanted
from Harry was information on how the Death Eaters were 
treated by Voldemort - I got the impression he wanted them
punished...the punishment that he had received at the 
hands of his father that these people had not.

Abergoat