Nagini the snake

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 26 17:08:00 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 158797

Carol earlier:
> Dumbledore accounts for the affinity between Nagini and Voldemort by 
> her being a Horcrux, but his suggestion that LV used Frank Bryce's 
> death to make that Horcrux is problematic for a number of reasons 
> discussed in earlier posts and does not account for the affinity 
> between them when LV is possessing her in OoP, which occurs before 
> Frank Bryce's murder.
> 
> ibchawz responded:
> Are you saying that the "affinity between Nagini and Voldemort" 
> occurs prior to Frank Bryce's murder?  If so, this is quite 
> possible.  I think that the affinity would have to be a pre-
> requisite for making Nagini a horcrux.  If you are saying that LV's 
> possession of Nagini in OoP occurs before Frank Bryce's murder, I 
> don't see how.  Frank Bryce was murdered at the beginning of GoF.  
> This occurs a year before any of the events of OoP.

Carol again:
I stand corrected on that. I must have been thinking, for some odd
reason, that Frank was killed in HBP--which is odd because I've just
reread GoF. But, yes, I do think that the affinity existed before
Frank's murder since she reports the presence of the old Muggle on the
stairs and curls up like a family pet on the hearth rug. He may talk
with other snakes, and possess them when he's Vapor!Mort, costing them
their lives, but his relationship with Nagini is different. It's
possible that he's already fed Bertha to her, and he has certainly had
Wormtail use her venom in the potion that creates his rudimentary
body. He is also at the time of GoF using her venom as food. So, yes,
there's an affinity and more than an affinity--a much more complex
relationship than Dumbledore is aware of. (Too bad Harry doesn't
remember his dream and report the details to Dumbledore!)

Carol, hoping the mistake in chronology didn't seriously damage her
argument








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