book jacket, stag/ woman's face on the back cover?

[rlace2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 167255

> Ryan:
> *(snip)*
> > I do think however, that the form of the patronus is linked to
the
> inspiration for the Patronus. Which makes me wonder why Ron's
> patronus is a Jack Russell terrier and Cho Chang's is a swan.
>
> Ceridwen:
> Jack Russells are tenacious and hyper.  My friend has a blind Jack
> Russell, but that doesn't stop her: she will still chase down any
> strange dog she smells on her lawn.  She is loyal; brave; and
> fearless, which is not always the same thing as brave.  Maybe this
> characterizes Ron.
>

Ryan:

Actually, I think that characterizes the relentless, overachieving,
prodding Hermione far better than it does Ron.  So it seems you've
answered that question for me.  Thanks!

Ceridwen:
> As for Cho, I think her Patronus was a hint that she was still
loyal
> to and in love with Cedric, since swans mate for life (or at
least,
> I've always heard that they do).

Ryan:

Perhaps.  According to Wikipedia, "Swans usually mate for life,
though "divorce" does sometimes occur, particularly following
nesting failure." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan

There's also a bunch of mythological references mentioned, which are
too numerous for me to go into now.  In any case, I think Cho's
probably played her part in the story already.

It's possible that the swan Patronus ties into her flying ability.
She is, after all, a Seeker who's dated 2 other Seekers.

Interestingly, the constellation Cygnus (the Swan) borders Draco and
is in the Zodiac sign of Sagittarius (the Archer, who also happens
to be a centaur.)


> Ryan:
> > 1. The concept of the phoenix may be even more important to
> Dumbledore (and perhaps to the story) than just that Fawkes is a
> phoenix. I mean, why call your resistance movement "The Order of
> the Phoenix?" Maybe some of the Order members will clarify that in
> DH.
>
> Ceridwen:
> The phoenix self-immolates and rises, recreated again, from its
own
> ashes.  I think the phoenix symbolism parallels Dumbledore's usual
> habit of giving second chances.  And for naming the organization
for
> it, DD is associated with the Phoenix, as we find out (but of
course
> the Order members would already know that), and at least one (if
not
> many more than one) person in the Order has been given a second or
> subsequent chance by DD.  That's just my opinion, of course.
>
> Ceridwen.

Ryan:

Those are all good possibilities.  Still, I'd like to hear that
coming from one of the Order members themselves.  Maybe the Order
members named it because of their respect for Dumbledore.  As it is
now, I find myself imagining DD inviting prospective members:

DD: "Would you like to join the Order of the Phoenix?"
Prospect: "What's that?"
DD: "It's the secret resistance I'm putting together to fight
Voldemort."
Prospect: "Why's it called the Order of the Phoenix?"
DD: "Because I like phoenixes."
Prospect: "Oh. . . sure. . . ok.  Sign me up!"