The Prank in DH (was Re: Predictions for the End (what I think, hope and know)

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> > > Alla:
> <SNIP>
? To me more means discovering something that we may 
> not  yet know.

Pippin:
It could be that Lupin was actively involved , or that Snape 
was forced to enter the willow. Either or both of those would make
Snape more of a victim than he is now. Snape speaks  as if
he was expected to treat it as a joke gone wrong, not a serious
attempt to kill him. 

> > 
> > Julie now:
> > As I noted later in my post, I'm referring to this incident 
> > alone where Snape was the victim. I have no doubt that Snape
> > also victimized the Marauders whenever he could, though at
> > this point there isn't any evidence he actually put any of
> > them in mortal danger DURING THEIR SCHOOLDAYS rivalry.
> 
> Alla:
> I mean how much **more** like a victim Snape can look in that night? 
> I mean, he was **sent** to be eaten by big bad werewolf, was he not?
> ( Iccidentally my favorite question - did Sirius imperio him to go 
> there or forced by any other means? How did he trick him? But I 
> digress)
> 

Pippin:
Oh my, no. Lupin said, "Of course Snape tried it." The implication
was that Snape was spying on the Marauders, just looking for trouble.

 If we learn that Snape  *was* forced in and it was a premeditated
attempt to kill him, IMO that will be a big surprise for Harry, whose
take on it is "Just because they made a fool of you at school."

Personally, I think that Sirius did only mean it as a nasty joke --
it was Lupin who attempted murder by placing Snape under Imperius
or otherwise coercing him.

> Alla:
> 
 Dumbledore does not say I am sorry Severus in responce to his 
Sirius Black tried to  kill me. He just says my memory is as good 
as ever. I read as you  are the one to talk , but I can be wrong.
> 

Pippin:
Snape could be the one to talk because he got a second 
chance and shouldn't grudge it to Sirius. But if Dumbledore counted
the prank as Snape's first chance (because Snape was somehow guilty,
as you surmise) then  Snape would be  on his *third* chance, and
Sirius was sent to Azkaban without a second one. That makes no
sense to me. But if Dumbledore counted the  prank
as Sirius's first chance, it makes perfect sense that Dumbledore
gave  up on him when it appeared that he'd blown his second one.

Pippin