Tobias & The Angel

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 167449

> Betsy Hp in:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167433

> If Snape reported the prophecy to Voldemort on Dumbledore's 
orders it would mean that (a) Snape would have no reason to feel 
any remorse,

Goddlefrood:

Firstly let me emphasise, this is not the Snape I favour. On this
point above I would simply enquire: "Do you honestly believe DD's
story, as *inferred* by Harry, on his reason for trusting 
Severus?" I don't buy it at all, there must be something more to 
it. As I said in the original Tobias & the Angel post if Snape is 
DDM, which I don't believe, then my suggestion is that he was 
from the point of his debriefing after the Shriekiung Shack 
incident.

Severus does not come across as a man who feels remorse, it 
seemed more like a cooked up story to me :)

> Betsy Hp:

> (b) Harry will end the series hating Albus Dumbledore. (It would
mean a bit more than just that actually, but I think those two are
enough to be going on with. <g>)

Goddlefrood:

He may end up this way, but has a forgiving nature, and would 
find a way to forgive DD his transgression. I hold a view, which 
may not be shared by many, that this matter may be one of the big
mistakes to which DD himself has referred <:>

> Betsy Hp:

> It would completely destroy any aspect of redemption within 
Snape's story. Snape would not need to be redemed because he did 
nothing wrong to begin with. 

Goddlefrood:

Yes, that interview statement is problematic, but its 
interpretation, IMO, is that she complimented the interviewer on
the question without actually agreeing with it.

My favoured view of Severus should be posted over the weekend, 
part 3 in the series :) It's shaping up quite nicely :>

> wynleaf in:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167436

> However, there is the question of why Snape went for many years
without revealing Lupin's secret. 

Goddlefrood:

This I have stated several times before on this list, the 
archives are there. It is hardly likely that Severus was unaware 
of Remus's role in spying on the werewolves. It appears he never 
reported this spy role to LV or the DEs. In fact this secret has
not been revealed to date in canon. Remus was in the original
Order and it is no stretch to then conclude that he was spying
on the werewolves even back during the nauseatingly named 
"Voldwar1".

IMO it is a strong ground for suspecting that Snape is far from
being LV's man and lends support to him as either DDM or 
SLANOBANTITS :)

The same reasoning would go to support wynleaf's wonderment over
why Severus never seems to have mentioned that Remus was a 
werewolf, that is up to the point where he let his grudge get the
better of him. I suggest that had rather more to do with Snape's
loathing of Sirius than with Remus, however ;)

Perhaps that would be sufficient?

> Inge in:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167438

> The reason I like best, would be if Snape has been Dumbledore's 
man all along.

Goddlefrood:

On that point we agree, it is how I would best like to see Snape
turn out as DDM, which of course, he isn't ;)


For what it may be worth I accept the simple explanation as to 
how Remus lost his job. Purely and simply it was due to concerns
of parents, parents who had found out about his condition 
through Severus's less than tight lips. With the proviso as above
that it was spite against Sirius rather than Lupin that led Snape
to let slip Remus's condition towards the end of PoA.

Goddlefrood, who once again clarifies that Tobias & the Angel is 
not the version of Severus I favour, but I could live with it if
it is somewhere near the truth ;)