Will the Real Severus Snape please step forward?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 167771

> > Goddlefrood:
> 
> > Here and now, I present a further expansion on the "Severus,
> > please" business. Basically Dumbeldore realised at the time
> > Snape appeared that Severus was, in Dumbledore's own mind,
> > bewtraying Dumbeldore.
> 
> Magpie:
> But Dumbledore isn't reacting to anything. He's got no reason to 
think Snape 
> has betrayed him. Snape's only just walked in when Dumbledore 
starts 
> pleading, and the "Severus, please," is a continuation of that. I 
think all 
> the impressions of the characters we get in this scene are 
carefully chosen 
> to tell us what's going on, even if we don't get it yet. Since 
Dumbdore is 
> said to be pleading and then says words that are pleading, I think 
we have 
> to go with the pleading, pleading that can't, as far as I see, be 
in 
> response to Dumbledore realizing that Snape has betrayed him 
because there's 
> no moment for him to have that realization.
<SNIP>

Alla:

Is there no time for Dumbledore to realise that Snape had betrayed 
him though?

See that is the reason why I am not buying this argument - there are 
pretty good indications that Dumbledore is a strong Legilimenc as 
well, yes?

Snape is **there** on the scene. Do we know that Legilimency only 
works when you look subject in the eye? I mean, we had been shown 
that it often works like that, but we specifically had not been 
given explanations how it works in details, IMO.

So, what I am trying to say is that I think that it is very possible 
that strong Legilimenc can pick up subject emotional state without 
looking him in the eyes.

I mean, yes, Dumbledore often looks Harry in the eyes, but those are 
situations when he has the luxury to do so IMO, to double check etc.

I am not even sure if Dumbledore had to do any spells when Snape 
showed up on the Tower.

Wearing emotions on his sleeve, anyone? Maybe Snape emotional state 
was like smell coming from him, etc.

Speculative? Sure, but I believe that possibility is valid and 
certainly no more speculative than  some other possibilities.


So, I am coming back to Sigune essay again and say that Dumbledore 
pleading can really really mean please Severus, please do not tell 
me that my trust in you was in vain.

Of course it can also mean "please take me and not Harry", my other 
favorite.

In short, I do not think that Dumbledore pleading proves in any way 
shape or form that Snape is DD!M. 

JMO,

Alla