The Coward and Deserter

[toonmili]

No: HPFGUIDX 167957

> Goddlefrood:
>
> Really, you surprise me ;)
>
> I said before and I'll say it again, Karkaroff WAS killed after
> a year or so on the run (or maybe he's alive, I have seen that
> one before and commented on it ;)
>
> In Spinner's End in HBP Snape tells Bella that he returned
> later than the graveyard scene. LV was making assumptions in
> his loyalty, IMO, LV believed Snape was a coward, and possibly
> repeated that to Severus during their little tete-a-tete when
> Snape proferred his explanation for not answering the Dark Mark
> call.

Toonmili:
Wait, do you think Snape is evil? If so, then I don't think you will
ever see reason until book seven comes out. But allow to try.

Like I said before, at this point Voldemort hasn't had a face to
face conversation with either Snape nor Karkaroff. But remember when
he was sharing a body with Professor Quirell he knew of Snape's
actions. He knew Snape saved Harry while he was on the broom. He
knew Snape was in Dumledore's Pocket.

He will also have evidence from Wormtial about Snape's actions in
the Shack, how he wanted to kill Sirius because he believed Sirius
to be the secret keeper.

At this point Voldemort knows that Snape told Dumbledore that he
told him the prophacy. "To arrongant to believe he might be worng in
Black." From the quote we see that Snape knew Black was the secret
keeper all along and he was even against the idea.( I know black
wasn't the secret keeper but that's what everyone including
Dumbledore thought)

So Voldemort knows that Snape has regrets about the night he killed
the Potters.

This will prompt Voldemort to say: I believe he has left me forever.

Because Voldemort like the rest of us, has a difficult time reading
Snape's actions. At times it seems he is working for Dumbledore and
at times it seems he is working for Voldemort. But from the evidence
he had, Voldemort thought it seemes most likly that he was working
for Dumbledore.

However when Snape returns and tells Voldemort the whole story. It
is only then he decides that he is working for him. Hence the reason
why Snape is alive today.

It would make no sense for Snape to be the coward. Simply because
Snape is not a coward. When Dumbledore asked him to go back to spy.
He didn't want to but he did.

The reason why Snape reacted that way to being called a coward by
Harry was because at that moment Snape was being very brave and
risking his life,  so that he would ultimately save Harry's in the
end.


Now it does make sense for him to call Karkroff a coward as he was
indeed one. He was the one who tried to run away and he sold out his
other death easters as well. Voldemort knew this. When he said he
believed he had left him forever, it sounded like he was in regret
about that one. Why or Why would Voldemort want a traitor back in
his fold.



> > Toonmili:
> > Chapter 2, Snape says:
>
> > "The Dark Lord's initial displeasure at my lateness vanished
> entirely, I assure you, when I explained that I remained faithful,
> although Dumbledore thought I was his man. Yes, the Dark Lord
> thought that I had left him forever, but he was wrong."
>
> Goddlefrood:
>
> Confirmation of what I say above, IMO, Snape was the coward, but
> Karkaroff was the deserter to be killed.

Toonmili:
How is that confirmation that Snape is a coward? Did you not read
Snape telling the sisters that the Dark Lord thought he had left him
forever? Sounds like he spoke to him and that what Voldemort
said...he's repeating his words.

>> Goddlefrood:
>
> If that's proof then I'll retire tomorrow ;)

Toonmili:
I guess you're out of a Job then. Cause it is proof.