[HPforGrownups] Godric's Hollow and the Fidelius Charm again (Was: Apparition & Secrets

Jeremiah LaFleur hpfreakazoid at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 00:23:48 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 167977

Carol earlier:
> > I'm not sure about the rules of Apparition, but neither Narcissa
in "Spinner's End" nor Dumbledore in "The Cave" Apparated to their
> exact destination. <snip>
>
> > va32h here:
> My thinking has always been that Lupin, Sirius, Hagrid, and anyone
> else who might have visited the Potters knew where their house was,
> and could visit it, but they were just magically prevented from
> sharing that information with anyone else. <snip>

Carol:
I don't think they would know the Secret (the Potters' location) once
it had been hidden inside the Secret Keeper, even if they knew it
before. And if they did, they still wouldn't be able to see the
Potters at their home in GH.

<snip>
I'm talking about someone who knew the Potters' hiding place *before*
the Secret was concealed but was not told the Secret *by the Secret
Keeper* *after the Charm had been cast.* I think that person, for
example, Lupin or DD, would no longer no what he knew before because
that knowledge is now concealed inside the Secret Keeper. Unlike
Sirius Black, who knew the Secret but couldn't reveal it, they
wouldn't know the Secret because Wormtail hadn't told them. Their
knowledge before the Fidelius Charm was cast would be voided by the
Fidelius Charm, which requires the SK himself to tell the Secret in
order for it to be known.

<snip>
Carol, who realizes that others may understand the Fidelius Charm
differently but can only make sense of it if it works as she's described
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Jeremiah:
That's Very interresting.
I have had questions about that charm, but going back to the origional
question in this thread...
Harry asks about this very question on HBP and DD says that is it rude to
just apparate into someone's house and they should have time to be warned
and to refuse you. (Leave it to DD to know proper Wizarding Etiquette, huh?)

So, Narcissa (being chased by Bellatrix) was probably following etiquette.

As far as Godric's Hollow, we don't know who was in on the Secret and I've
had a few posts about how I am sure the charm is still in tact regardless of
Pettigew "cheating" on the Potters. We'll find out, I guess.It could all be
a moot point. However, I would htink that if DD can be dead and still have
the Fidelus charm work on Grimauld Place then it should still work for
Pettigrew... but that's just how my brain processes information.


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