An Oddity - Dumbledore and Fawkes

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 168016

> bboyminn:
 
> When it comes to Dumbledore pre-planning to help Harry
> by sending Fawkes, I have the same feeling that I have
> when people suggested the Dumbledore planned for Snape
> to kill him. That just feels like too much detail. 
 
> I take a more general approach. Dumbledore planned for
> Snape to do what must be done for the greater good
> regardless of any necessary but unpleasant sacrifice, 
> but nothing so specific as 'when the DE's enter the 
> castle, then you seek up an kill me'. That's just too
> absurd.

Goddlefrood:

This is an interesting viewpoint. It could certainly be 
commended. It does not seem likely that DD planned that 
closely, just in a general way as suggested. It has me 
thinking of a deeper bond between master and pet, though. 
If one shows true loyalty to DD it could turn out, as 
suggested, that Fawkes will answer the call as DD is no 
longer able to, being dead and all. 

I do agree that it is likely Fawkes will have quite an 
important role to play in DH and will, almost certainly, 
have a beak or claw in Harry's continuing adventure. JKR 
would not really help us here, but this exchange:

"Who did Fawkes previously belong to and will he play a 
vital role in the next book?

JK Rowling: I am not going to answer about the role in the next 
books, which probably gives you a big clue, and he has never 
been owned by anyone but Dumbledore. You will notice that when 
Harry goes back in the Pensieve in this book, Fawkes is never 
there, and ­­ no, I am sorry, not in this book, I take that back. 
When Harry has previously seen the study with a different 
headmaster he saw it with Dippet and Fawkes was not there then. 
Fawkes is Dumbledore's possession, not a Hogwarts possession."

>From Edinburgh "cub reporter" press conference, ITV, 16th July 
2005, available here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4690000/newsid_4690800/469088
5.stm

Is about all she has said relative to Fawkes, other than for 
his link to a conspirator in the Gunpowder Plot of the early 
17th century and the continuing tadition of bonfire night, 
which is celebrated on 5th November each year.

When JKR says such things it can be expected that there would 
be more to come in Deathly Hallows.

Despite the usual link that is made between soul repositories 
and dark magic I think it may be possible that something similar, 
but almost entirely reversed could be at play with this DD / 
Fawkes bond. The power of love, which has come up time and again 
in the books, followed to a not wholly illogical conclusion, 
could lead to a view, which I now present, that there is a 
somewhat equivalent positive spell, charm, potion, enchantment 
or any other form of magic that would be called light magic to 
each piece of dark magic. This is not a new view, others have 
expressed it before me, but perhaps not quite in the same way. 
This despite there being no real clarity over what is dark and 
what is light.

Although there are no spells to reverse death, JKR has said this,
could it be that there is some spell that draws out the badness
in a person or even takes away their magical ability altogether?
Was this, perhaps what DD was trying to cast in the MoM Atrium
that made the gong sound?

Dumbledore almost certainly knows of this form of magic, LV has
even alluded to such positive magic in the graveyard at Little
Hangleton when he said "It was an old magic, I was a fool to
overlook it", or thereabouts. The outcome of this old magic's
emplacement was a positive, love-filled one and there is
strong evidence that only deep and abiding love could have 
caused it to work, and it did work in that it saved Harry to
live and eventually fight against LV.

That DD was a blood expert should be in little doubt, having
had a hand in formulating the twelve uses of dragon's blood
and his not infrequent remarks in respect of the blood link
that keeps Harry safe while at Privet Drive, links that I am
confident of his having had a hand in putting in place.

It came as a surprise to me that it came as a surprise to one
Scott Moore that the crying of Fawkes to heal Harry's wounds 
in the CoS was left in the media we never mention ;). This:

"The phoenix--a classic symbol of Christ, who dies and rises 
again--comes to help him. He kills the serpent, then in a 
moment quite shocking--I'm surprised Hollywood left it in--
the phoenix weeps in his wound to heal him. That's a classic 
symbol of Christ's passion. It's Christ's tears that make us 
whole."

is what he said from Time, 23rd June, 2003. The article is
available on the net:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1005057,00.html

So, yes, almost definitely Fawkes will help Harry and quite 
probably in a time of dire need. Perhaps he'll be there singing
his songs to inspire the brave at heart and inspire fear in the
less than true of heart, why not?

The other interesting feature of a Phoenix, which is not in the
books themselves, but is in one of the schoolbooks, FB, is that
they can disappear and reappear at will, that too may have a
part to play in the resolutio, it has been seen before and also
reinforces my opinion that DD was ready to die, whatever the
mechanics of that death may have been and notwithstanding the
loyalties of those involved.

It would be something, though, if Fawkes is more closely linked
to DD by some tie of which we are as yet unaware :)

A few further matters to chew on perhaps :-?.

Goddlefrood #-o