The one... to vanquish... approaches.... The one... to vanquish will be born

Kemper iam.kemper at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 21:55:17 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168088

To refresh everyone, the prophecy in three easy to digest part:

1.  The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches....

2a.  Born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh
month dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he
will have the power the Dark Lord knows not...

2b.  and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live
while the other survives....

3.  The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as
the seventh month dies...

Back to me (Kemper):
What part of the prophecy did Snape over hear?
I believe it was 2a.

What was Snape doing before he heard 2a?
He was /approaching/ the door to eavesdrop.

What are parts 2a and 2b about?  I believe that sections 'a' and 'b'
are about the people prophesied in parts 1 and 3, Snape and Harry.
Both are the ones to vanquish the Dark Lord.  One of them 'approaches'
and one of them 'will be born as the seventh month dies.'

Dissecting parts 2a and 2b:

'Born to those who have thrice defied him,'
Assuming 'him' is the Dark Lord, will we find out that Snape's parents
defied the Dark Lord?
Assuming 'him' is Snape, will we find out that that James and Lily
defied (went against) Snape (or Snape's advice)?

'born as the seventh month dies...'
Most if not all of us assume this is Harry.

'and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal,'
Assuming 'him' refers to Harry, we think this is the scar representing
a transfer of power to baby Harry through Lily's sacrifice and the
subsequent the failed AK.
Assuming 'him' refers to Snape, when might this have happened?  Or,
maybe this part of the prophecy hasn't happened yet.  It isn't the
Dark Mark on the arm, as that's a mark of servitude and it happened, I
assume, prior to the prophecy.  The prophecy says 'will mark' as it
hasn't occurred yet.  Maybe 'the mark' will occur in the next book, as
a reward for killing DD.

'But he will have power the Dark Lord knows not...'
Assuming 'he' refers to Harry, we think the power is Love.
Assuming 'he' refers to Snape, and we take power to mean knowledge
(Sir Francis Bacon said, 'Knowledge is Power') then the Dark Lord,
through Snape's superb occulemency, knows little of Snape's secrets,
the Order's secrets, DD's secrets.

And finally the section Snape did not hear:
'and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live
while the other survives....'
This one is harder.  'Either' and 'other' can refer to this mix:
Harry/the Dark Lord and Snape;
Harry/Snape and the Dark Lord;
Snape/the Dark Lord and Harry.


I can't claim the catylist of this theory which is part 1 referring to Snape.
That claim and honor goes to a Mugglecast listener. I merely expanded upon it.


Kemper




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