Harry's compassion WAS: Malum blah blah blah was Re: Harry using Crucio.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 4 15:06:07 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 174467

> Magpie:
> Well, yeah, given that it's the bad characters that are more 
> difficult to feel compassion for. 
<SNIP>


Alla:

And he still does it - for both Riddle and Malfoy.


Magpie:
> Basically, I think it goes off in the wrong direction to make it 
> about Harry and what would make him more compassionate, because 
Harry 
> is who he is. I don't have a problem with Harry. But I think that 
the 
> story Harry is in just doesn't ultimately say anything that 
> significant about compassion. <BIG SNIP> But 
> when I think of the series, of which Harry is the center, I really 
> think it's heart lies more in the justice angle. 
<SNIP>

Alla:

Well talking about what's at the heart of the series is a bit of 
different angle than talking about who Harry is, for me anyways.

Justice is certainly at the center, I agree, but compassion and 
Harry as compassionate person for me takes a big center as well.

But I suspect we are running into semantics again.

Here is the definition of compassion that I googled and liked ( just 
took the first one).


Compassion -

Deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to 
relieve it.

So,  does Harry reflect much on the sufferings of the others? We had 
been shown glimpses, IMO but certainly not his long reflections, BUT 
I personally have no doubt that Harry  wishes to relieve those 
sufferings and ACTS on that.

That's why yeah, compassion and justice in Harry's character are 
tied for me very strongly. I would call his compassion an active 
compassion, so to speak.

I brought examples before, but I also want to add that Harry wanting 
to relieve the sufferings of those in the battle of Hoggwarts, to 
not allow anybody else to die, etc, definitely counts as compassion 
to me.


I mean, wanting to relieve Wormtail's sufferings, to me is 
definitely compassion. NOT a long reflection, although Harry has to 
think about it at least for a second, lol, but definitely to me a 
desire to take action and stop the pain.

This kind of compassion is the one I associate with Harry .




 Magpie:
<SNIP>
> Also, just to make this clear, my use of the phrase "makes my skin 
> crawl" was badly chosen. It was supposed to be a joke on my 
jumping 
> in to post at all, like saying that I knew I was being annoying 
but I 
> had an allergic reaction to hearing this so was compelled to post. 
I 
> didn't mean that people thinking Harry was compassionate made my 
skin 
> crawl because it was so stupid or anything like that. It was 
supposed 
> to be a joke on my overreaction and need to post about it.

Alla:

Thank you :)

Alla.






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