Requiescat in Pace: Unforgivables

[jkoney65]

No: HPFGUIDX 174682

> colebiancardi:
> 
> well, canon states that Snape *said* Avada Kedavra.  But canon also
> states that they've been learning about non-verbal spells all year 
long.  
> 
> Seems to me that is a great plot point that was never really used in
> DH's, no?   So, if learning about non-verbals was important in HBP 
and
> what we knew about UC's and the status of Snape's loyalities before
> the wrap-up in DH's, it seems to me that one could conclude, knowing
> that Snape was DDM!Snape, issued a non-verbal spell instead of an
> Unforgivable Curse.  Have we ever seen Snape issue an Unforgivable
> before in the books?  Even in DH's, he resorts to confounding 
instead
> of Imperious.
> 
> Of course, my opinion pretty much goes to hell in a handbasket, as 
the
> good guys *use* UC's in DH's.  
> 
> But, it just seems to me that the point of non-verbals was just 
tossed
> away in the garbage, along with the idea of never using UC's, when
> DH's came out.
> 
> The evidence that Snape may or may not have used a true AK in HBP
> could go either way.  He may have said it, but that doesn't mean he
> meant it.  And we don't see this memory at all in the Pensive.
> 
> IMHO
> 
> colebiancardi
>

Jack-A-Roe:
It's canon that he says Avada Kedavra. It's cannon that a green light 
shot out and hit Dumbledore in the chest. 

There isn't anymore for us to prove on that point. 

Your only argument is that they learned silent spells. Do we know it 
is possible to say one spell and think another? Not that I can 
remember anywhere in canon. 

As Alla said, it is up to you to prove your point using canon. You 
could also say that there was another DE under an invisibility cloak 
who cast the spell and not Snape. But we have no proof of that either.

The spell is said the green light hits Dumbledore and he dies.

Jack-A-Roe