Requiescat in Pace: Unforgivables.
Katie
anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 9 19:43:38 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 174950
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "urghiggi" <urghiggi at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Katie" <anigrrrl2@> wrote:
> >
> Katie:
> > She's not Nietzche or Plato or
> > something! She's not Saint Augustine! She's just a really good
> > fantasy author who threw some classical and Biblical stuff in
there
> > for profundity...which worked. >
>
> Julie:
<<<BIG SNIP>>>
> Whereas ... Pullman, Tolkein, Lewis, L'Engle ... and, yeah, JKR ...
write fantasy that, at the
> very least, seems to want to be 'about' more. (Not in the sense
that "hey, I'm going to set
> out to write fantasy that's deliberately crafted to be didactic"
but rather "hey, this is the
> kind of story/subject matter I'm interested in as an author.")
>
> What JKR is interested in, apparently, is an exploration of some
pretty heavy stuff.
>
> Julie H, chicago
>
***Katie:
Well, I'm interested in all that stuff, too, but I couldn't write a
coherent book about it. I'm not saying she sprinkled it in for
flavor, arbitrarily. Maybe I phrased that poorly. Certainly she meant
to put those things in there, but I see it differently.
What I really meant by that was that she put this stuff in there, but
it was to give substance to her main theme, which was about Harry
beating Voldemort because Harry has the ability to love. Classical
references, mythological references, biblical references, helped to
tell her story. They were the plate upon which she served the meal -
which was Harry's personal story. Without the plate, your meal is on
the floor...but you wouldn't eat the plate when you're done with your
food. I see that she put those things in there, but I do not believe
that was the main point.
As far as WHY she would write these books, if not to explore these
themes...She has said many times that Harry basically hit her over
the head. He came to her fully realized. She HAD to write his story.
As a writer myself, I know this feeling well. Sometimes, things just
have to be put on paper, and you don't sit down to sort out the
complexities of the various historical or theological references that
you're putting in there.
I was more interested in her more earthly (and I think, much better
realized) themes of corruption of power, authority not being able to
be trusted, friendship, loyalty, and strength of character.
If her point was to explore thoroughly the themes of religious
philosophy that everyone is assigning to her, in my opinion, she
failed. However, since I don't believe that was her point, I am
perfectly happy with the books morality. I will never see these
as "Christian" or even "religious" books. They are books that
incorporate spiritual themes, and that is very different.
Also, I believe that JKR has stated that she purposefully put these
questionable moments, like Harry's "crucio" on Carrow, to show that
even the best of us do questionably moral things. I understand that
people feel she didn't explain this well in the text, and that is
certainly still arguable. However, I don't think it's arguable WHY
she put it in, or what it meant. She told us.
Katie, loving the books just the way they are
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