Ungrateful Werewolf ( Was Re: Character Given A Reprieve)

[lanval1015]

No: HPFGUIDX 175592

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "montavilla47" 
<montavilla47 at ...> wrote:

montavilla:
> 
> How odd.  That's exactly the same things that Harry wasn't
> for in PS/SS.  After all, when the Trio went down the corridor 
> on the third floor, they were

> 1. Sneaking out at night, breaking school rules (after having 
> been caught before!)
> 2. Sticking their noses in and interfering with school-approved
> business (after multiple warnings from Hagrid!)
> 3. Entering an area (not exactly a tunnel) that was clearly,
> absolutely, without a doubt off-limites to all students, including
> any stray werewolves
> 4. Endangering themselves (three students).
> 

Lanval:
The did get punished another time, though, when they were out 
getting rid of Norbert.

As to the Third Floor adventure.

PS/SS, Scholastic Ed. p.260:
"Snape wants the stone for Voldemort... and Voldemort's waiting in 
the forest... and all this time we thought Snape just wanted to get 
rich..."
[...]
"So all I've got to wait for now is Snape to steal the stone," Harry 
went on feverishly, "then Voldemort will be able to come and finish 
me off..."

p.268:
"Professor, I think -- I *know* --that Sn--that someone's going to 
try and steal the Stone. I've got to talk to Professor Dumbledore."
[...]
"It's tonight," said Harry, once he was sure Professor McGonagall 
was out of earshot. "Snape's going through the trapdoor tonight. 
He's found out everything he needs, and now he's got Dumbledore out 
of the way...."


Never mind that he was wrong about Snape, the rest happened exactly 
as Harry predicted. 

So, yeah. Intent. Urgency. Averting a disaster.

What's Snape's excuse again for sneaking out to the Shack? :)

> Montavilla:
> Clearly, breaking school rules and interfering with school
> business isn't that big a deal at Hogwarts.

Lanval:
I agree about breaking school rules not being a huge deal at 
Hogwarts, or at least not considered a deep moral flaw. 

As to the SS incident, we have no idea who got punished and for what 
exactly. My post referred to the statement that Sirius should have 
been expelled, and since he wasn't, he clearly did not get punished, 
and to the assertion that Snape got punished instead by Sirius NOT 
getting punished. Confusing, I know, but that's how I understood it.
> 

Montavilla:
> Neither is endangering fellow students, as we don't hear 
> about any punishment for Sirius--who endangered two 
> fellow students to Snape's one.
>

Lanval:
Sirius didn't endanger anyone, legally speaking. He only gave Snape 
information. Snape made the choice all by himself.