Ungrateful Werewolf ( Was Re: Character Given A Reprieve)
juli17 at aol.com
juli17 at aol.com
Fri Aug 17 01:00:19 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 175613
Lanval:
And yes, he is a bit of a jerk, for defending Mulciber and Avery,
who have performed Dark Magic on a girl. Which Lily finds MUCH worse
than the prank (and it probably was). According to her it
was "...evil.*Evil*, Sev!"
Julie:
The biggest problem with defending either side of this argument is that it
is just like so many others in the HP world. We don't have enough real
information about the Prank, or about what Dark Arts are and why they
are so much worse than your run of the mill just normally nasty ones like
Hermione's pustules on Marietta's face (that remain uncurable for at least
several months), or a levicorpus lifted high enough to let a wizard fall to
his death when released from it. (No, I don't recall seeing the latter happen
in the books, but like any curse that takes a Wizard's motor control away,
you could easily put a Wizard in mortal danger and then just let nature or
gravity or whatever take its course.)
So what makes a Dark curse dark, and makes for instance, Snape's mildly
applied Sectumsempra to James face (if that's what it was) dark even though
it did no real damage to James, while hexes James and Sirius performed in
the hallways that must have hurt and humiliated as much as some of the
darker ones Mulciber performed on students? (I say the latter because if the
students were getting away with Dark curses, they much have been able
to contain them as mild versions of such, since they weren't getting expelled
for using them--or if they weren't so mild, that leaves us with another
apparent
inconsistency of Hogwarts staff looking the other way when it comes to these
Dark curses.)
Switching over to the Prank, we still don't know how Sirius clued Snape in
about the Shrieking Shack entrance, or how James found out about it, or
how much Snape actually knew versus how what he actually expected to
find. So again we're all making our best guesses. From the canon words
of adult Sirius and Lupin, and Dumbledore, and from Snape's pensieve
memories, here's my final theory:
Snape suspected Lupin was a werewolf. He went to the Shack hoping to get
evidence to support his suspicion. He probably expected the evidence would
lead to the Marauders getting into some sort of trouble, preferrably
expelled.
He probably didn't suspect Lupin would be "loose" to attack him, though he
still acted surprisingly rashly. His desire to get one up on the Marauders no
doubt overrode his good sense.
Sirius resented Snape's nosiness. He found a way to "tell" Snape how to get
into the Shrieking Shack, at a time when he knew Lupin would be transforming.
His state of mind isn't clear, though I'll assume he expected Snape to get
the
fright of his life, but possibly didn't think about Snape being
turned/killed, as this
would be horrible for Lupin (there would be no way to hide his werewolf
status
at that point, and if Snape died, probably no way Lupin would emotionally
recover). Sirius gave as little forethought to how this all would play out
as he
did to most everything else. (And as an adult, when he said "Snape deserved
it" I do believe he meant Snape deserved what he *got*, which was a scare and
a threat to his life, not what Snape *might* have gotten--turned or killed.
Or I
chose to believe it, as there's little to go on about Sirius's true meaning
here.)
James found out what was going down, presumably because Sirius told him.
("I told Snivellus how to get into the Shrieking Shack, and when he sees a
full
grown werewolf, he's going to soil his dirty knickers!" "Sirius, you didn't!
What
were you thinking? Moony will bite him, or Merlin forbid, kill him!" "Gee,
that'll
be a great loss..." "What about Moony? You're about to make him a murderer!")
After some such conversation (and I suspect it was more about Moony's fate
than Snape's to get through to Sirius, though James surely didn't want to be
a
party to any turning or killing, nor see even a student he hated killed),
James
went after Snape, and pulled him back out of the tunnel, proabably about the
time Snape got a glimpse of Moony as a full werewolf.
We also know that no one got expelled over the Prank though Sirius
deliberately
enticed Snape into a potentially lethal confrontation, and Snape was out of
bounds against school rules (as was James, but I'd assume his purpose was
enough to exonerate him). So there likely were punishments involved, though
we don't know if they were of different degrees for Sirius versus for Snape--
Sirius getting detention for the rest of the year, Snape for a month, for
instance.
Adults Snape and Sirius are too busy hating each other (Snape certain Sirius
wanted to kill him, Sirius still believing Snape deserved it) to worry about
those
niggling details.
One more thing we do know is that it *was* a deadly situation. The werewolf
could have killed Snape, as it nearly did later in PoA with adult
Sirius/Padfoot
out of rage. We also know because Dumbledore said James saved Snape's
life, and about that kind of thing I don't think Dumbledore would lie
(though he
could use "saved Snape's life" in the broader sense to include Snape being
turned as well as Snape dying).
So, now here is my opinion of who is more guilty. Both Sirius and Snape
acted with malice, Sirius wanting to at least scare Snape (and possibly not
much caring if Snape was at least turned) and deliberately enticing him into
a harmful situation, Snape wanting to get evidence against the Marauders,
who he'd already seen getting away scot free from various misdemeanors.
I will also submit here that I don't see any evidence at all that Snape
wanted
to kill Lupin, as he went in unarmed (beyond his wand) and unprepared to
defend himself against a werewolf, let alone take one out, given that James
had to "save" him.
Given the climate between the Marauders and Snape however, it is harder for
me to blame Snape as much for wanting to get his tormenters expelled than
it is to blame Sirius for setting up Snape deliberately to be harmed/killed
(even
if Sirius wasn't thinking too much about all the potential consequences).
What
Sirius did is more grave to me, and whether Snape took the bait or not,
Sirius
deliberately laid the bait, knowing something bad would happen (less bad or
more
bad will depend upon each individual's interpretation).
Finally, what did Dumbledore say to Snape to convince him never to reveal
that
Lupin was a werewolf? The only thing that makes sense is that Dumbledore
told Snape he would be expelled if he told. That's the only threat that would
work with teenage Snape, I think. Though I originally thought Dumbledore
might
have appealed to Snape on some personal level, after DH I'm pretty sure he
just laid down the law. They were both breaking school rules (assuming there
is something in the rules against deliberately goading another student into
harm's way), and either violation could get a student expelled, so Dumbledore
just called it even. Except that he added the "no telling" restriction on
Snape.
I have to add that I can see how Snape wouldn't view it as "all even." (And
here is one of those moments where I had expected that JKR would further
illuminate Snape's complex character, by making it clear that this perceived
favoritism--or quite honestly, real favoritism--of Gryffindors on
Dumbledore's part
was what gave Snape the final push to throw his lot in with Voldemort, as why
keep fighting futilely against a system that always favors Gryffindors?) To
Snape
attempted murder doesn't equal attempted explusion, and while JKR didn't
make it clear, I still think this was one more factor that did ultimately
push
Snape to join the DEs.
Finally, I do think the Prank was worse than the Dark curses. At least in so
far as the information we actually have. Again, I'm assuming the Dark curses
didn't cause serious permanent damage or death, or we would have heard of
students being expelled for using them. Yet Snape could have died from the
Prank, or been turned into a werewolf, even if Lily doesn't know that (and
Snape can't actually tell her what happened as he would be revealing that
Lupin is definitely a werewolf). So I take Dumbledore's assertion that James
saved Snape's life as more relevant than Lily's easy dismissal of the Prank
as
opposed to her condemnation of the "evil" Dark curses (or even that they are
so much worse on/to their victims than James and Sirius's not "dark" hexes
in the hallways.)
In the end it all comes down to individual interpretation though, since there
is so little definitive information, and a lot of inconsistency in the canon
we
do have, that we will never *know* the all the facts of the Prank and its
aftermath, beyond what we each believe. Er, IMO, of course ;-)
Julie, who does wish JKR had been a little more consistent with some of
these things.
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