Snape's Request gave Harry a second chance? (Was: Snape/Dumbledore thingummy)

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No: HPFGUIDX 175806

> Mim:
> 
> I phrased it wrong. Snape didn't want all the Potters dead. Maybe 
> James but that's not important. He didn't want Lily dead. Telling 
> Voldemort to spare all the Potters wouldn't have accomplished 
much. 
> And when Snape went to Dumbledore he was indirectly trying to save 
> all the Potters. The moment he told Dumbledore it wasn't like 
> Dumbledore would have saved only Lily. 

Alla:

Snape was indirectly trying to save all the Potters while he 
directly asked Dumbledore to save Lily only? Isn't Snape intent what 
matters to determine what Snape wanted to do? IMO of course.


Mim:
Dumbledore trying to get him 
> to say that he wanted James and Harry saved too was just another 
of 
> the old man's sadistic touches. And then he manipulated Snape to 
get 
> him to promise to do anything. Snape didn't have to do anything 
and 
> whether Snape did anything for Dumbledore or not, Dumbledore would 
> have to help the Potters. He's supposed to be a good guy. 


Alla:

Snape did not have to do anything? Well of course not. He after all 
already **did** something - he delivered prophecy to Voldemort. He 
did not have to come to Dumbledore.

"If she means so much to you," said Dumbledore, "surely Lord 
Voldemort will spare her? Could you not ask for mercy for the 
mother, in exchange for the son?

"I have - I have asked him" - p.677, DH.

Alla:

I read it as Snape indeed **wanting** Harry dead in exchange for 
Lily.


"You disgust me," said Dumbledore, and Harry had never heard so much 
contempt in his voice. Snape seemed to shrink a little. "You do not 
care, then, about the deaths of her husband and child? "They can 
die, as long as you have what you want?"

Snape said nothing, but merely looked up at Dumbledore.

"Hide them all, then," he croaked. "Keep her - them - safe. Please" -
 p.677 - 678


Alla:

It does not look to me that Snape gives a fig about them dying, 
personally and he disgusts me in that scene just as much as 
Dumbledore.

And even when he asks to hide them all, he says to keep her safe.


I remember so many preDH arguments that Snape came to Dumbledore 
because he could not bear to see Voldemort killing the baby.


Looks like he could bear it quite well to me.

Oh, I just wanted to briefly answer Judy with my opinion why 
Voldemort wanted to spare Lily. IMO he simply liked and valued Snape 
too much and would have done a lot for him. After all he asks Lily 
not once but three times to step aside.


JMO,

Alla.