Snape and Lily/ Neither Can Live/Snape Saves /The 'Taboo'/ Naming Offspring

littleleahstill leahstill at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 26 08:38:58 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176264

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at ...> wrote:
> Alla wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/175864>:
> 
> << I wonder sometimes what If Voldemort indeed incapacitated Lily 
and
> killed Harry and James only, did Snape seriously thought Lily would
> become his? >>
> 
> Imperius. Love Potions. Confundus. Obliviation.

Leah: I don't think Snape had any thought of Lily becoming 'his'. 

If Snape had wanted to use love potion on Lily, he could have done 
so while they were still at school.  When Rita Skeeter is writing 
about Hermione's love life in GOF, she quotes Pansy Parkinson as 
sayng that Hermione is 'quite brainy' enough to make a love potion.  
We have to think that the Half-Blood Prince could have managed one 
too.

In Slughorn's first lesson, a large cauldron of love potion is 
bubbling away, suggesting that making it will at some time form part 
of the NEWT syllabus.  However, it doesn't feature in Harry's 
lessons, so we never see any reference to it by the Prince.  Neither 
does Harry turn to the Prince for help when Ron eats Romilda's 
chocolates.  HBP is full of the Prince's writings and of love 
potions, but the two are never linked. If there was to be any 
indication that Snape intended forcing himself on Lily in this way, 
I think we would have seen some Princely reference to Amortentia.  
(And since he didn't intend to use the method that would come most 
naturally to him, I don't think Snape had any idea of using another 
method of rape such as the Imperious curse).

I don't think that Snape wanted Lily kept alive for his personal 
pleasure.  He wanted her alive because he could not bear to be in a 
world in which she did not exist.  He may have hoped that she might 
come to care for him, but I think that's as far as it went.

I think there's  further indication of that in Harry's final scene 
with Voldemort.  Voldemort tells Harry that Snape 'desired' Lily, 
but then admitted there were women more worthy of him (fairly 
clearly sexually worthy).  Harry responds "That is what he would 
have told you", an echo of words used by Dumbledore to Harry to 
explain Snape's apparently shifting loyalties.   The fact that 
Harry in extremis, and with the Prince's memories fresh in his mind, 
rejects desire as Snape's primary motivation for saving Lily is, I 
think, significant.

Leah   






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