DD and Horcruxes/ Scrimgeour

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No: HPFGUIDX 179577

> > Alla:
> > 
> > Eh, did anyone make the argument of publishing the horcruxes in 
> Daily 
> > Prophet? If anybody did and I missed it, then sure I do not 
> subscribe 
> > to it either.
> 
> zgirnius:
> Mike suggested it should be publicized, without specifying a 
> mechanism. 

Alla:

So if he wanted news paper article about horcruxes, then I disagree 
with him :)

BUT if what Mike was suggesting was publicising as much as possible 
who Voldemort is, that he is in fact had been called Tom Riddle and 
his name should not be feared among other things.

Oh YES, I think it should have been publicised all right and think 
that this was one of the most idiotic things Dumbledore did.

He was saying good things - fear of name, blah, blag, blah.

So, why not practice what he preached? Why not tell the whole WW 
that Tom Riddle is Voldemort? STupid IMO.


 
> Alla:
> > I mean of course Order and I think DA members as well, and I 
think 
> > the best argument for it was made by a_svirn that Battle of 
> Hogwarts 
> > may have never ever happened, had Mcgonagall and DA members knew 
> that 
> > they were supposed to look for something.
> 
> zgirnius:
> In other words, you would have recommended Dumbledore tell 
Mundungus 
> Fletcher and Zacharias Smith? 
> 
> I agree a limited selection of people from the Order and/or the DA 
> could have been trusted. So did Dumbledore. This is in fact what 
> Dumbledore decided, when he agreed Harry should tell Ron and 
> Hermione. Adding a McGonagall or a Snape or a Neville to the list 
of 
> people one thinks should have known is not a criticism of the 
> principle of secrecy under which Dumbledore operated, it is a 
> tactical disagreement about which small subset of humanity should 
be 
> told.

Alla:

NO, it is more than tactical disagreement, I am afraid.

I suggest the **trust** the people mode as default one. NOT the 
limited people from the Order. OMG, who besides Mundungus is not 
deserving of Dumbledore's trust in your opinion?

Moody? Weasleys, who sacrificed so much? Remus who went to 
werewolves no matter what strain it put on him?

As I mentioned before I understand Dumbledore if he was traumatised 
by Pettigrew betrayal, but by no means I believe his method of 
leadership was the right one.

Do I think that the moment he learned about horcruxes every member 
of the order should have been told in details, explained and asked 
to be on the lookout for them? Oh yes. I repeat every member of the 
order.

Now, should he have told Mundungus? Um, I would leave it up to 
Dumbledore's discretion. I think he is smart enough to see if person 
is not strong enough. He is supposed to figure out IMO that, NOT 
distrust of everybody.

 
> > Alla: 
> > I mean, Mcgonagall, his Deputy Headmistress, and he **still** 
did 
> not 
> > trust her. I mean, I never bought into evil Minerva theories, 
but I 
> > certainly understand how those theories came to life.
> 
> zgirnius:
> He trusted her to lead the defense of Hogwarts in his absence, and 
> his trust was well-placed, as we saw more clearly in DH than in 
HBP. 
> Deciding who to trust is not only about having faith in their 
> intentions, but about their abilities.

Alla:

Really? Did he trust her to lead defense of Hogwarts in his absence? 
I do not remember him confiding much in her about potential DE raid 
before he left for Horcrux trips in HBP.

The fact that Minerva lead the battle so IMO spectacularly had 
nothing to do with DD's trust since he was dead by that point.

She did her job well indeed, but what does Dumbledore have to do 
with it?