Where's that Big Reveal in DH?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 180042

> > Pippin:
> > Only because we fans had years and years to work them all out.
> > Even if we didn't personally believe in Puppetmaster!DD or
> > Lollipops, we weren't going to be shocked.
> 
> Mike:
> And yet there was a good ship LOLLIPOPS floating in Theory Bay as 
> early as 2002. At the end of book 5 we knew that Dumbledore had a 
> Plan in mind for Harry. Those Puppetmaster!DD threads were around 
> since the release of OotP in 2003.
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Alla:

I cannot speak for Pippin but I believe that her point was not that 
those threads were around for a long time, but that the fact that 
**we** are not going to be shocked does not mean that the rest of 
the fans, who, you know, did not spend years and years discussing 
the books will not be.

Basically I think ( and again she will correct me if I am wrong) 
that one cannot judge objectively whether there was a big reveal in 
DH based upon whether anybody here on HPFGU was surprised or not.

And I wholeheartedly agree with her actually. It is just what you 
said Mike, those theories were around forever, we had seen 
everything and came up with every possible solution under the moon.


Take myself for example. If I was not debating whether Dumbledore 
ordered Snape to kill him quite often in between HBP and DH, you bet 
I would be surprised when it was revealed that he did.

I would be surprised because in my wildest dreams I did not want 
Dumbledore's character to turn out as able to order another human 
being to hurt his soul for him.

But since I was debating it, this theory, while I hoped would never 
come true was firmly in my mind as the possibility raised, you know?


I was not surprised ONLY by virtue of hearing it day in and day out.

Now consider the fans who love books, but do not spend their time, 
or at least not as much as we did discussing them.

As I am sure I mentioned before I do not know too many HP fans in RL 
except those who belong to this list, but in the last year I met two 
coworkers of mine, who are passionate fans, but do not go to 
Internet discuss the books.

Oh, and needless to say they both are highly intelligent, highly 
gifted people, so they are perfectly able to analyse the books, etc.

I mean, when I mentioned to one guy that RAB is Regulus before book 
7 came out, he was like, nah, too simple. He was not reading the 
interviews, he was not reading other people insisting that this is 
the most plausible thing, etc. He **was** surprised when he read it.

He simply did not have time to think about it as much as we do, you 
know?

Another girl was SHOCKED when she read about Harry going to 
sacrifice himself. She described to me her experience of reading 
last hundred pages or so as thinking - oh no no no she is not going 
to kill him, she cannot, she won't do it, right, she won't do it?

They had plenty of surprises and shock reading last book, you know?

So, I just think that to analyse whether this bunch was surprised or 
not won't give us correct picture.

JMO,

Alla


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