[HPforGrownups] Re: Where's that Big Reveal in DH?
Metylda
bamf505 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 24 19:26:23 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 180045
--- dumbledore11214 <dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Pippin:
> > > Only because we fans had years and years to work
> them all out.
> > > Even if we didn't personally believe in
> Puppetmaster!DD or
> > > Lollipops, we weren't going to be shocked.
> >
> > Mike:
> > And yet there was a good ship LOLLIPOPS floating
> in Theory Bay as
> > early as 2002. At the end of book 5 we knew that
> Dumbledore had a
> > Plan in mind for Harry. Those Puppetmaster!DD
> threads were around
> > since the release of OotP in 2003.
> <BIG SNIP>
>
> Alla:
>
> I cannot speak for Pippin but I believe that her
> point was not that
> those threads were around for a long time, but that
> the fact that
> **we** are not going to be shocked does not mean
> that the rest of
> the fans, who, you know, did not spend years and
> years discussing
> the books will not be.
>
bamf:
Forgive me for snippage, but my problem with book
seven is that JKR, for all her faults, did show us a
lot of unpredictable twists that required planning.
Hagrid appears on Sirius's motorbike in book one, and
we don't find out the significance of that until book
3 (stealth was more important than the motorbike when
tracking PP). In book 4 she had the whole Rita
Skeeter article that at first glance can be taken as
really sensationalistic news reporting. But at the
end, we find out that there was a body removed. Throw
away things that come back to haunt us.
So, the only 'foreshadowing' I can see is that Harry
destroyed the diary. But that really doesn't have any
bearing on book seven. (Other than it's one less thing
for them to track down.) Even relationship wise there
were no surprises.
The only real surprise I felt during the last book was
Neville and the killing of Forge. (But I had predicted
that would happen to some friends saying it would be
the worst thing she could do would be to kill one twin
and not the other.) The fact that she did it, that
surprised me.
Maybe my problem is more that she revealed too much to
us in the first six books. I'm not as fanatic as some
on this list with all the theories and detailed
readings of the books... but I do become disappointed
when I can predict the ending of a book from a mile
away.
bamf
There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.
*****
Me t wyrd gewf
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