And in the end...SS/PS
cdayr
cdayr at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 6 02:23:11 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 164658
"Don' you worry Harry
Everyone starts at the beginning at
Hogwart's
" (US Ed. pg.86)
Greetings!
As I'm sure many of you have been, I have been re-reading the series
again in advanced final preparation to Know Everything on July 21.
Although I would happily talk about Snape, and Snape alone until the
last moment <g>, I had an idea to try and mix it up a bit.
I would like to propose that once a month (this being the first of 6
months before the big day) we begin a thread focusing on one
particular book, starting at the beginning and working through to
HBP by July. This "zoom in" look at each book would focus on the
question, "What in this book will be important to the end?" I will
be happy to start this thread each month, but would also be glad to
accept volunteers who might want to start the discussion in any
given month. If you would like to volunteer, just e-mail me off-list
at cdayr at yahoo.com and I will make a schedule.
I have been focusing my attentions on PS/SS for the last week or
two, and have compiled these items that I believe (and I know many
of you believe) may be essential to the finale. I've tried to come
up with a few that have not been heavily discussed lately, and tried
not to dwell too heavily on recently discussed topics (with moderate
success). In responding to this thread, I hope you will add to this
list (I know my list is only skimming the surface), tell me where
I'm totally off track, and break off into new threads, maybe even
some that are not about Snape. Or are.
So let's go: PS/SS!
Just to change it up, I'll start with a reference I'm interested in
at the very end of PS/SS (all references are the U.S. Paperback Ed):
1. "Sent owls off ter all yer parents' old school friends,"
(pg. 304) says Hagrid, as he gives Harry the photo album at the end
of the book. This seems to be a reference to a number of old friends
that Hagrid has easy access to. Do we know any of these old friends
(aside from Lupin, the only one we know for sure)? Is this the
Order, or are there further relationships between characters we know
and the Potters that will be revealed in DH? (assuming JKR is
truthful that no new major characters are to come.) Will Harry's
ability to pull people together also include his parents' friends?
2. Hagrid is the Keeper of the Keys (pg. 48). Although this has
been discussed ad nauseum in the past, I still believe that in this
title lies the fact that Hagrid is a "key" to the ending of the
books and the defeat of Voldemort. How, you ask? Hmm
a piece of
information he has, something he witnessed, something from Tom's
Hogwart's years that he knows, something about Snape? What do you
think?
3. "Dunno if he had enough human left in him to die." (Hagrid,
pg. 57) Hmm, awfully close to horcruxes during the very first
discussion of Voldy! This statement is so close to what we finally
learn to be true 6 books later, I wonder
is this just the writing of
a woman who was unsure any more books in the series would be
published? Or does Hagrid know more than he lets on? Or is it common
knowledge that VM is less than human or changed? Seems like a very
accurate statement from Hagrid at this point. I'm keeping my eye on
Hagrid.
4. "There's not a single witch or wizard who went bad who
wasn't in Slytherin." (pg. 80) The alienation of the Slytherin crowd
is a huge theme, started here in SS/PS, which I believe will hold a
key to the resolution of the series as well. As someone (sorry I
forget who) said recently, this statement is both extremely biased
(poor Harry never stands a chance of thinking fairly about the
Slytherins- he didn't even make it through his first wizardish day
without being told that Slytherins are no good) it is also just
untrue (Peter Pettigrew, anyone? And at the time, everyone thought
Sirius was a bad as they come- oops, sorry, wrong book, getting
ahead of myself). How do all of our "good" characters get to justify
this bias? How does JKR? How does this bias self-perpetuate, as in
Draco's desire to be in Slytherin? What will break this down (as I
believe it must be broken in the end)?
5. Ollivander's eyes, his creepy glassy eyes really stuck out
to me as I was reading today. "Wide, pale eyes, shining like moons
Harry wished he would blink. Those silvery eyes were a bit creepy
Harry could see himself reflected in those misty eyes." (pgs. 82-83)
I am of the belief that Ollivander is not dead, but captive or fled
to Voldemort, and will be important in DH. This description of him
is far more sinister than I remember, and reads to me as someone
hiding things- similar to Snape's glittering eyes. Will Ollivander
be able to alter VM's wand to operate successfully against Harry?
What else might a sinister Ollivander do to alter the possible final
outcome of the books? Where is he?
6. Is Quidditch included in the book just for fun, house
rivalry, and reader interest? Is there anything about Quidditch in
this first book in particular that adds to the overall mystery and
fight with VM? Oh, Quidditch
7. Alright, a lovely Snape moment that becomes more beautiful
with our wizened HBP eyes: " Snape and Filch were inside, alone.
Snape was holding his robe above his knees. One of his legs was
bloody and mangled
Harry tried to shut the door quietly, but
"POTTER!" Snape's face was twisted with fury as he dropped his robes
quickly to hide his leg
.the expression on Snape's face when Harry
had seen his leg wasn't easy to forget." (pgs. 182-183) The
parallels with the "levicorpus" incident in the pensieve are just
glaring to me in this scene (sensitive about his legs, our Severus).
And we've seen the Snape face-of-fury quite a bit now, but here is
our first glimpse. I see his outbursts of fury coming at points when
he may appear weak or feels out of control. What sets him off in
this scene so dramatically? There is no reason, really, to be
furious with Harry here, within the context of the story- all Harry
has seen is that his leg is injured. Is it truly that he is thrown
back in time to his "worst memory" by having a Potter see his bare
legs? Or in the big picture, where does Snape's fury come from?
8. Norbert must come back, right? I mean really, he's a
Chekhov's gun, isn't he? Have to bring him back to resolve the act
one introduction. Just a thought.
9. "Your father left this in my possession before he died."
(pg. 202) So, I guess we should all still be thinking about why
James left the Invisibility Cloak with DD, since JKR says we should.
I have read so many ideas about this over time: Regulus or someone
else needed it to go into hiding, someone (apparently not Snape) was
under it at GH, etc. Well, any further thoughts on the ol' cloak?
Also, the fact that this is supposedly important does give me hope
that JKR is planning to tell us quite a bit about the events leading
up to the Potters' deaths- if we will know why James left the cloak,
then hopefully we will know even more about what he was up to back
then.
10. I was thinking about the recent thread about Snape being
fixated the past, or being past- oriented when reading the Mirror of
Erised chapter again. While Harry is able to break free of the hold
his past might have on him in the mirror, in some ways Snape cannot
break away from the past. It seems Snape's life is very much
dictated by fixation on the past (marauders in particular), and that
DD's remark, "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live,"
might apply to Snape, except it would be "dwell on the past." Of
course, it also speaks volumes to what Harry failed to learn in time
for OotP (dreams, Harry! geez
)
11. My bulleted list of other SS/PS topics that I believe will
play in the end:
*Grindelwald?
*Centaurs?
*"Snape was trying to *save* me?" (Harry, pg.289)
*"
your mother needn't have died
" (Quirrell, pg. 294)
*"Always use the proper names for things." (DD, pg. 298) (I don't
know, every witch and wizard says "Voldemort" at the same instant,
and PooF! Yay! (Uh oh, better wrap up, I'm getting tired.))
12. Finally, The Biggie (and go over it again or don't, we just
can't ignore it in this type of list, if you ask me): The missing 24
hours. I know we have gone over it and over it, but anyway:
How does the entire wizarding world know about VM's defeat by the
morning of that first Tuesday? Who was able to send the first owls
out that fast?
Where were Hagrid and Harry all day?
Why is McGonagall waiting all day at 4 Privet Drive? She must assume
that it is possible that DD and Harry might show up at any time
during the day, so this deepens the mystery of Where-is-Hagrid-All-
Day? When did she see Hagrid?
Who was at GH and what the heck happened? If this isn't essential to
the end, I'll eat my hat. And it is a big, woolen hat.
Well, that should send us off in 20 directions at once...There is
much more in that slim volume, PS/SS, that will be
important In The End, but those are my thoughts/questions to you all
for now
Hope this sparks some discussion, let me know if you would
like to be the writer for a starter "And in the end
" post for any
of the next books by e-mailing me off-list, and let's start up the
ramp to July 21st. Yee!
Celia (aka CDR)
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