Back to The Plan (Was:Re: Father Figures)

[Annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 164787

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
 
> Carol:
Still, in light of what actually did happen (and possibly the death of 
Sirius Black after all Lupin went through to prove him innocent to 
HRH), I can see why [Lupin would] be unhappy with himself. If only he'd 
just explained everything to Dumbledore in the first place. DD would 
have talked to Black, found out about Scabbers, had Pettigrew arrested, 
and Voldie would still be vapor. 

Annemehr:
Well okay, but *if* DD would have wanted to *prevent* LV regaining a 
physical body, by preventing Pettigrew's escape, then why isn't LV a 
vapor *now,* when he so easily could be?

"'You do not seek to kill me, Dumbledore?' called Voldemort, his 
scarlet eyes narrowed over the top of the shield.  'Above such 
brutality, are you?'" [OoP ch. 36, US p. 814]

(Well, actually, no he isn't. Dumbledore cannot be too noble to *kill* 
the likes of LV, if he is not too noble to charge a 16-year-old boy 
with the task. [HBP ch. 23, US pp. 510-512])

Anyway, we know that at the time of that duel in the Ministry, 
Dumbledore was already aware that LV had at least one Horcrux to tie 
LV's soul to Earth.  Harry had told him what LV had said in the 
graveyard, that LV had gone "further than anybody along the path that 
leads to immortality."  DD told Harry in HBP that his conclusion was 
that LV had made Horcruxes, in the plural -- and indeed that he had 
suspected such a thing ever since Harry had shown him Riddle's 
destroyed diary. [HBP ch. 23, US pp. 501-502]

So, DD is not too noble to kill the likes of Voldemort. And, DD was at 
least pretty certain that if he had tried to kill LV in that MoM duel, 
he would merely have returned him to the vapor state. Everything could 
have returned to pre-GoF conditions, except for Sirius's death.  Yet, 
DD did not do it.

Why wouldn't DD do it?

The inescapable conclusion is that DD *wants* LV to have a body these 
days.  It *has* to be part of the Plan -- that Plan that we *still* 
don't know, and which inevitably entails the cost of the many 
collateral deaths we read about in HBP.

And, given that, it's also reasonable to conclude that Pettigrew was 
supposed to escape.

Annemehr,
saying, it's Guilty!DD, I'm telling you...