Krum's Intellect/Father Figures(Karkaroff as Headmaster (WAS: Snape&Lucius)

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 164814

> Magpie:
>  (Though Krum's 
> > accept isn't correct for Bulgarian anyway. I think what he's got 
is 
> > your basic B-movie vampire accent.)
> 
> Geoff:
> This is a bit off-topic but you have made a serious error in that 
> comment.
> 
> Stanislav Ianevski, who plays Krum in the medium which dare not 
> speak its name, IS Bulgarian; he was born in Sofia in 1985.
> 
> So you can't accuse him of having a crummy accent. :-))

Magpie:
Heaven forfend! I have not made that serious error--I wasn't 
referring to Stanislav Ianevski's accent. I was talking about Viktor 
in the books, not the movies. I have't seen GoF. 

kayakknitter:
There are some names that are very difficult period to pronounce for 
a non-native English speaker. Hermoine's name is one of them. English
is the hardest language to learn for a non-native speaker. And 
sadly, many native English speakers have problems with their own 
language. So the fact that Viktor still had problems saying 
Hermoine's name after a full school term doesn't surprise me.

Magpie:
I'm sticking to my guns that I doubt HER-MO-NINNY is the natural 
Bulgarian-accent difficulty translation of HER-MY-O-NEE. (The name 
itself is originally Greek and I'd assume how difficult it was to 
pronounce for a non-English speaker depended on the native language 
of the speaker.) But I agree there's nothing stupid about Krum 
mispronouncing her name, or not learning to pronounce it better if 
he can't at first. Perhaps if we were getting the books from Fleur's 
pov she'd be spending her time trying and failing to get the 
Weasleys to say "Fleur" instead of "Floor" when they pronounced her 
name.

I'm just saying that the fact that JKR decided to make Viktor 
pronounce Hermione's name that way, we should not assume that she's 
researched what syllables are or are not difficult to put together 
if you're Bulgarian. Viktor's accent isn't exactly a primer on 
Bulgarian-based phoentics.:-)

kayakknitter:
Everyone has different study skills and ways of obtaining knowledge.
Hermoine's learning style is intellectual meaning that she learns 
best form books. Viktor's learning style is more than likely psycho-
motor meaning he learns by doing.

Magpie:
Viktor is an athlete, yes, but what do we know about his schoolwork? 
Especially in his native language? I don't honestly remember 
anything specific being told to us about his grades at Durmstrang. 
Perhaps he is a big reader. His difficulty in speaking with Hermione 
and others is also hampered by language. I'm sure he sounds a lot 
smarter when not struggling with English. (Viktor's already far 
beyond Hermione in that sense since he speaks two languages.)

-m (who also was familiar with the name Hermione and Hermione 
Gingold before she read the books, despite not being English)