Snape, Lily & the Potions textbook

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No: HPFGUIDX 164850

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Magpie" <belviso at ...> wrote:
> Alla:
> > It all depends on what one is banking would be the crucial 
emotional
> > connection that would help Harry to win the final battle.
> >
> > If one thinks that the crucial connection would be Harry/Snape, 
then
> > sure notes in the book have to be Snape's to make sure that Harry
> > had at least one point when he sympathised with young Snape,
> > etc,etc,etc.
> >
> > But if one hopes ( as I sure do) that crucial connection would 
not
> > be Harry/Snape, but Harry/Lily, that Snape is a plot device big 
one,
> > but plot device nevertheless, designed to teach Harry what kind 
of
> > person he should not be, the forgiveness, etc.
> 
> Magpie:
> Right. Harry and Lily don't need to "get to know each other" the 
way Harry 
> got to know Snape through the book. It would mean something if 
Harry learned 
> something from Lily that applied to his own emotional life. For 
instance, if 
> Lily had a relationship with Snape that we'll learn about later 
(one for 
> which the groundwork might have been laid in HBP via their shared 
Potions 
> skill) that would mean something to Harry. That's a place where he 
can get 
> to know Lily in a way that matters, and maybe model his behavior 
on her.

Alla:
Okay, seemed like a good quote to leave in, sorry if I left out 
anything crucial.
I am sorry, but Harry and Lily do not need to know each other? Um, 
AFAIR Harry does not know that much about her at all. I still 
maintain that whether you ( hypothetical you) consider the 
possibility of notes being Lily depends on whom you think would 
matter more in relation to book 7.

Why exactly Harry can only learn about something crucial about Lily 
which is related to Snape, if that is whay you are saying? As you 
know I do think that they had a connection and yes, it is likely 
that Harry would look at Snape through her eyes, but cannot HBP be 
just another piece of the puzzle about his mum, **not** about Snape?

I do not get why not. Not dramatic enough? Again, yes, the reversal 
with Snape seemed dramatic enough, for sure, but who knows maybe 
reveal with Lily would be even more dramatic  and somehow connected 
to the book.

After all, Harry can return for it so maybe it will still be playing 
a role.

Again, I do not insist that the notes were Lily's, it can totally be 
Snape's but the idea that it cannot be just because it will diminish 
Harry/Snape connection amuses me and I do not agree with it at all.

JMO,

Alla.