Bathroom scene again WAS: Re:Weasley Family Dynamics
dumbledore11214
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Wed Feb 14 18:08:37 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 164950
> Magpie:
<SNIP>
> I really don't think Harry was so hard done by after Sectumsempra.
> Draco got sliced up as a result of his attempted Crucio, so he
> didn't get off easy. I would hope that if everyone was questioned,
> hearing about Draco's attempted Unforgivable that would not lead
the
> faculty to Ginny's loyal girlfriend conclusion that oh, in that
case
> it was just lucky Harry had something good up his sleeve. I seem to
> recall McGonagall responding to Harry's claims that Malfoy goaded
> him into attacking him on the Quidditch Pitch by saying he still
did
> a stupid thing.
Alla:
LOL. If there is one thing I vehemently disagree with you about, that
is of course Draco dearest.
I do not seem to remember that Draco on Quidditch pitch attempted to
use unforgivable on Harry, so yeah, I share Minerva POV - he did
stupid thing there.
Scene in bathroom reads as something very different to me.
Magpie:
> Ironically, Snape doesn't even punish Harry at all for the
> Sectumsempra, exactly. He says he thinks Harry is a liar and a
cheat
> and deserves detention every Saturday--for his year-long use of the
> book. Ultimately neither boy gets talked to about his use of Dark
> Magic, and they're both lucky about it. (If it was discussed Malfoy
> might still have gotten off easier since whatever he was going to
> do, he didn't finish the curse and possibly wouldn't have been able
> to complete it any more than Harry, who has also attempted that
> Unforgivable without reprimand, albeit only against people he
thinks
> are Death Eaters.)
Alla:
I am still absolutely convinced that the **only** reason Snape does
not talk about Sectusemptra much is because he is afraid that Draco
is going to end up in Azkaban.
And Snape did not punish Harry? Detentions are punishment, are they
not?
Magpie:
I don't think Harry would have come off well as a
> character if after that scene he was focused on it being unfair
> because it was self-defense rather than having twinges of
conscience.
> <SNIP>
Alla:
As long as we do not forget that it **was** self defense, I do not
mind Harry having twinges of conscience.
As I also mentioned in the past, this is great that Harry having twin-
ges of conscience, but I hope he will not have more twinges than self-
defense with the wrong course.
He was not looking for a fight at all, Malfoy started it and I was
scared for Harry when I started reading this scene, I really did.
Distraught enemy can do things to you that when such enemy is in
normal state of mind IMO.
So, yeah, I truly think that the books do not glorify killings etc,
but I think that it may be that JKR goes for self-defense as special
case.
JMO,
Alla.
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