Seeing gray in a black and white book/Free passes to characters

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 17 03:42:44 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165089

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > <snip> ...I *do* see times where Snape, as a teacher, either     
> > makes a mistake or lets his emotions (anger usually) get the best 
> > of him.  I just don't think he's abusive and I don't think he    
> > should be strung up by his toe-nails.  Is that what is meant by   
> > a "free pass"?

> >>Alla:
> Depends. If your general position that he is a very good teacher of 
> Harry and Neville, then yes, I absolutely think that you are giving 
> him a free pass on multiple bad things he did to those boys. On the 
> other hand, if your position is that he **is** a jerk, just not 
> necessarily abuser ( sort of less extreme sort of badness), I can   
> see that and will not call that giving him a free pass. I will just 
> disagree with you :)
> You can tell me that you do not consider those things to be bad,    
> but sorry, there are just some things that to me  are bad, period.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Ah, okay then, yes.  I definitely give Snape a free-pass. <g>  But 
then I've seen plenty of other characters get free-passes too.  
(Choking Dudley was so funny!, etc.)

So, in that sense, yup free-passes all over the place.  And really, 
why waste time worrying about it? <g>  I guess it just comes down to 
what flavor gray one prefers.  Or if one likes things gray to begin 
with.


> >>Betsy Hp: 
> > But I do agree that there's a lack of equality in the judgement   
> > of characters.  The good guys can do something completely        
> > cowardly and ignoble (like say, an adult attacking a child       
> > because he doesn't like what that child's father just said, yes   
> > I'm looking at you Hagrid) and everyone talks about how gosh darn 
> > funny it was.  And a bad guy can make the noble decision to not   
> > kill an unarmed opponent (Draco vs. Dumbledore on the Tower) and 
> > suddenly it means the non-killer is a coward.

> >>Alla:
> Draco? Made a noble decision on the Tower?

Betsy Hp:
You'd prefer to call it cowardly?

Betsy Hp





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