Bathroom Scene - A Different Perspective

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 19 01:16:03 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165157

> Betsy Hp:
> I think part of it is that Harry wasn't just thinking "self-
defense" 
> himself.  At least, I think a part of him was wanting to hurt 
Draco 
> rather than just stop him.

Alla:

Yeah, and I keep asking for some support of Harry wanting to hurt 
Draco rather than to stop him :)

Betsy: 
> Having reread the scene (thank you Alla for typing it out, and 
gosh, 
> isn't Draco a talented young wizard, blocking an unspoken and 
> unfamiliar jinx with an unspoken block of his own <g>) it looks 
like 
> Harry and Draco fighting: situation fairly normal.  Yes, Draco 
starts 
> the fight, but Harry engages.  He's standing in a doorway; he 
could 
> have easily exited back through it.  But his instinct is to stand 
and 
> fight.

Alla:

He could leave? When? In a second when the lamp was exploding behind 
him?

"Malfoy wheeled around, drawing his wand. Instinctively, Harry pulled
out his own. Malfoy's hex missed Harry by inches, shattering the
lamp on the wall beside him; Harry threw himself sideways, thought
Levicorpus! and flicked his wand, but Malfoy blocked the jinx and
raised his wand for another —"

Sure, he instinctively draws his wand, but I am failing to see where 
it says that he instinctively ready to do more than to defend 
himself.


Betsy: 
> And I think that when Draco starts to throw the Crucio, Harry is 
at a 
> point where he wants Draco to hurt just as Draco is wanting to 
hurt 
> Harry.  And so Harry "bellows" that curse he knows is for enemies.

Alla:

Well, where? Where does it say that Harry wants Draco to hurt just 
for the sake of hurting him?

Why it is  not normal to think of person who throws an unforgivable 
at you as somebody else other than your enemy?

Is person who throws Crucio at you your friend? Seriously, the only 
person who threw Crucio at Harry so far was Voldemort.


Betsy: 
> Of course Harry doesn't mean for Draco to get ripped open.  But I 
do 
> think he meant for Draco to experience some sort of pain.  Which 
is 
> part of the reason for his horror, I think, and his guilt.  And 
it's 
> probably part of the reason Harry completely blocks Draco's 
existence 
> until the Tower scene. 

Alla:

I agree. He probably meant for Draco to experience the sort of pain 
that would stop him from completing that Crucio. I do not see any 
evidence in that scene that Harry meant for Draco to experience any 
sort of pain beyond that.

JMO,

Alla.





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