Bathroom Scene - A Different Perspective

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 19 19:04:50 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165172

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > <snip>
> > Draco and Harry do have a history, one that includes Harry       
> > hurting Draco. (Which is why, I'm sure, the staff don't question 
> > the whys and wherefores.  This is nothing new.)  
> > <snip>

> >>Quick_Silver:
> But on one level that isn't true...at least not from my reading of 
> HBP. 
> <snip>
> Even the nature of the crime scene is different then the typical    
> Harry vs. Draco method of operation...Draco and Harry usually fight 
> in public with their friends providing support/cannon fodder. So in 
> my mind the history of Harry vs. Draco is more of a distraction to 
> the staff judging the event. 

Betsy Hp:
I'm not saying that the staff draw a *correct* conclusion. (Or at 
least, most of the staff.  Snape, I'm sure, knew pretty much exactly 
what was going on.  He probably even knew this was Draco's spot to 
have a good cry.  And McGonagall *might* have had an inkling or two, 
depending on what sort of hints Dumbledore dropped her.  But the rest 
of the staff would not have made a Voldemort connection, I think.)

I'm just saying this is probably why they don't launch an 
investigation.  Draco and Harry have been at each other's throats 
almost from word go.  The year began with Draco giving Harry a bloody 
nose in a private fight they got into by themselves without attending 
friends.  So as far as the staff can see, this is just more of the 
same, albeit with more intense consequences.  But then again, the 
consequences have been steadily intensifying, so even that wouldn't 
stand out as something to look into in a different manner.
 
> >>Quick_Silver:
> I actually agree with what you're saying here (about Harry wanting 
> to hurt Draco) but I think that even if Harry had been totally in   
> the right feeling guilt is a good thing. IMO if Harry were able to 
> shut down his feeling of the guilt of messy handling of Draco then 
> his world would still be very black and white. 

Betsy Hp:
Oh, absolutely.  I think both boys learn something pretty big here, 
which is why it's such a cool scene, IMO.

> >>Alla:
> <snip>
> See, just as Mike does I am **very** glad that Harry feels guilty, I
> am just not sure how that translates the scene in something else.

Betsy Hp:
The scene is what it is.  The attempt to make it *all* about self-
defense is more, IMO, attempting to make the scene be about something 
else.  Yes, Harry is definitely defending himself against Draco's 
aggression.  But Harry is being aggressive himself (not all of the 
broken fixtures are caused by Draco's wand).  And it's Harry's 
aggressiveness that nearly kills Draco.  Harry, at least, recognizes 
that.  Which is why, IMO, you don't hear Harry make the self-defense 
argument.

Betsy Hp 





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