Was Harry cheathing in Potions in HBP WAS: Re: Bathroom Scene

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 165205

> Neri: 
> > These nuances depend a lot on culture, institution, faculty and
> > subject. We don't know what the relevant rules in Hogwarts are. 
But
> > Hermione probably knows, and she dislikes the Prince from the
> > beginning, and yet AFAIK she never tells Harry that he's breaking 
> any
> > rules, or that he might get a detention or be expelled if he's 
> caught.
> > Yes, I think Harry wasn't exactly playing fair when achieving his 
> fame
> > based on material he never told his teacher or other students 
> about.
> > But then, academic life at Hogwarts don't strike me as very fair 
to
> > begin with. It was also not fair that Harry was picked on by his
> > potions teacher for five years, but do we ever hear any objections
> > from any staff member?
> 
> Magpie:
> No, she doesn't tell him he's breaking rules. But she obviously 
> thinks he's getting credit for things he doesn't deserve credit 
for, 
> which is true. I'm a little surprised that something that Harry 
> himself always recognizes as dishonest is getting defended by stuff 
> like "Well, who cares about classes being fair?" or "Why's it 
> important to learn the subject in school?" It's not fair that Harry 
> had a mean teacher for 5 years that didn't like him so he's getting 
> payback through getting credit for being a Potions whiz when he 
> isn't in return? Since when do those things go together? (And if 
> that is what he is doing, I expect Snape's debt is paid in full now 
> and nobody can consider him unfair anymore.)   


Alla:

YAY. Trip to the bathroom seems to be over, so I figured I will 
finally change the subject :)

Hmmm, was Harry cheating or not? IMO I agree with Neri that academic 
life in Hogwarts does not strike me as fair **at all**.

But since I always say that I consider Snape to be a child abuser by 
our standards and do think that JKR really does have our standards in 
mind for Potterverse as strive for, I totally say that Harry **was** 
cheating, no question about it.

I think though Magpie, that who cares about that stuff is not exactly 
a defense, more like an excuse, sort of.

Because the way I think about it, I precisely do not care about it 
not because Harry was not cheating, but because of the way Snape 
treated him.

In RL, sure I would have cared about it, but I do think that Harry 
was **way** overdue some compensation and no, I do not think that 
makes Snape debt paid, far from it ;) ( just in literature, hehe)

JMO,

Alla