[HPforGrownups] On lying and cheating

Ronin_47 Ronin_47 at comcast.net
Wed Feb 21 13:26:02 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165249

--Kemper Wrote--

>>>If you sleep with someone else and don't tell your spouse. And your
spouse doesn't ask if you slept with anyone else. You broke vows and
your marriage is a lie whether your spouse knows it or not, you're
still a cheat.

I personally don't care that Harry lied by omission to Slughorn or
lied directly to Snape; but I know that he cheated.<<<

 
--Ronin-s Comments--
Okay....Apples,  meet oranges.
Broken wedding vows are not the same thing at all. Not even close.
 
As far as I know, none of the Hogwarts students ever took any solemn vows
concerning their potions textbooks. The reason that no vow was taken is
probably because it doesn't matter if they manage to learn from someone
else's notes in their textbooks. Furthermore, if Harry had not learned what
he did from the Prince's notes, Ron would be dead! Thank God, Harry learned
about bezoars.
 
I don't care if Harry did lie to Slughorn or Snape either. Considering the
two, Slughorn altered his own memories trying to cover up the truth and
Snape is definitely lying to someone. Either Lord Voldemort or Dumbledore.
And Dumbledore himself lied by omission for years if we want to get
technical. He waited until Sirius's death to tell Harry about the prophecy
and everything. These are the examples that Harry has to model himself
after. And in times of war, all is fair.
 
Cheers,
Ronin


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On Behalf Of Kemper
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:57 AM
To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPforGrownups] On lying and cheating



> eggplant wrote:
>
> People say Harry cheated in potions, but nobody can point to a rule he
> violated. There is certainly no rule saying you can only use your
> textbook to complete your studies, otherwise Hogwarts wouldn't have a
> library. Harry didn't lie, he never told Slughorn "I was only reading
> the standard textbook". Harry not only followed the letter of the law
> he followed the spirit of the law too. He found a way to do things
> that was better than that idiotic textbook and he ran with it. Good
> for him!
>

Kemper now:
If you sleep with someone else and don't tell your spouse. And your
spouse doesn't ask if you slept with anyone else. You broke vows and
your marriage is a lie whether your spouse knows it or not, you're
still a cheat.

I personally don't care that Harry lied by omission to Slughorn or
lied directly to Snape; but I know that he cheated.

Kemper


 


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