Voldemort's entire plan for HBP/DH (Re: Voldemort learning the prophecy?)

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 165257

Carol:
> I agree that we haven't seen the last of Trelawney (who, IMO, has
> one more Prophecy to deliver: these things usually come in threes).
> but I don't see how she could have been kidnapped through the
> Vanishing Cabinet. That plan was all about getting DEs into
> Hogwarts so that Draco could be forced to kill Dumbledore (or die
> trying). Trelawney just happened to get in Draco's way (and was 
> prevented from telling her story to Dumbledore by Harry's reaction 
> to the eavesdropping revelation). 

Jen:  I won't argue with that part, I just believe there's more going 
on with Voldemort's plan than we have complete information for yet.  
We stopped midway and that would be like saying the plot of GOF was 
for Harry to die in the Triwizard Tournament, or the plot of PS was 
Snape attempting to steal the Stone.  I see more coming and believe 
Voldemort's plan also includes another attempt to learn the prophecy 
and/or arranging Snape as the linchpin in his quest to kill Harry.  
My best guess is both, everything will pull together to take in all 
three of the factors set in motion in OOTP and HBP: Kill Dumbledore, 
assure Snape's loyalty for the plan, and obtain the prophecy in order 
to determine how to defeat Harry.

Carol:
> I see a plot to kidnap Trelawney, who's no doubt still holed up in 
> her attic room (her not being mentioned as attending DD's funeral
> doesn't mean she wasn't there) as a reason for Voldemort to 
> infiltrate Hogwarts in DH, along with retrieving any Horcruxes that
> might be hidden there or holding any staff or students who happen to
> be there hostage. A certain rat Animagus we all know and hate still
> knows all the passages into Hogwarts, including one that's blocked 
> to humans but not to rats and probably is not being watched.

Jen: I don't see the need for another plot to kidnap Trelawney when 
this one was so perfect.  The North Tower is on the seventh floor and 
accesible from the ROR.  Trelawney happening to be in or near the ROR 
when the DE's came in would only be a bonus, requiring much less time 
to snatch her in all the confusion and before the Cabinents were 
sealed.  I like your addition of Wormtail and would actually guess 
Pettigrew is already *in* Hogwarts now since he wasn't one of the 
DE's in the battle.  Having him back inside would serve Voldemort's 
purposes if there's a Horcrux hidden there or he just wants a spy.

Trelawney not attending the funeral could either way.  Her staying in 
her room would be consistent with the Trelawney Harry has known for 
much of the series, if not exactly in OOTP and HBP when she started 
to venture out more.  But the real evidence I see for Trelawney not 
actually being in the castle at the time of the funeral is another 
characterization point:  Despite whatever grief she may have 
sincerely felt for the loss of Dumbledore, she would be all over her 
card reading coming true and want everyone to know about it.  She's 
acutely aware people think her a fraud and now has a star witness in 
Harry about her very accurate and literal prediction this time.  This 
would wipe the stain off her record and get 'Dobbin' (hehe) out of 
the castle in her mind, which seem to be her primary concern in HBP.  
She would *not* pass up this chance imo.

Jen, thinking a plan to kidnap Trelawney, arrange for an almost 
invisible spy at Hogwarts and set up an angry and resentful Snape to 
help defeat Harry would be a truly evil and vicious plan.