Potions, the Book, and a New/Old Perspective
sistermagpie
belviso at attglobal.net
Thu Feb 22 16:55:34 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 165316
> > Magpie:
> > It's crazy. I'm not even Hermione and I wouldn't accept working
with
> inferior instructions. It's common sense. But then, Hermione's
idea of
> genius often seems foreign to me.
> Carol responds:
> Yes, but what Hermione does is a side issue. It has nothing to do
with
> the rightness or wrongness of Harry's behavior, and she's
absolutely
> right that Harry is getting credit for someone else's work, for
> Potions brilliance he doesn't have, and that it's unfair to the
> students who *do* know what they're doing and work hard to achieve
> their results.
Magpie:
I agree-it's totally a side issue. I was just saying that, on the
side, I can't personally identify with Hermione's wanting to use
official instructions rather than the Prince's. I would be all over
notes in the book. I don't share Hermione's fondness of authority
for authority's sake--on that issue I almost always zig instead of
zag.
But I would also, as I said, think that the whole class should have
access to them. Class doesn't have to be a competition. I wouldn't
say it's always wrong for a teacher to use competition in a class.
I'm sure it's just one of many things that can be used in different
learning situations. Some students might respond to it well. But I
don't think there's anything very good in it in this context. (And
in general I really think Slughorn's attitude is dreadful for a
teacher--it's partly why I'm surprised when people call him "the
Good Slytherin"). It's too bad the Prince's book is shared between
Hermione, who would keep the information from everyone because it's
not officially approved to her standards (heh--why does that make me
think of Umbridge?), Harry, who seizes on it only as a personal gift
for himself that he uses to his advantage, especially compared to
the other students, and Ron, who can't be bothered to care.
It's a bit ironic that Snape himself, as I read it, puts the
students on a level playing field at his own level. However he
dislikes the Gryffindors, he isn't giving them the official book
while the Slytherins get his improvements. He more goes the
Hufflepuff way in that regard. It's Harry who takes what most would
consider the Slytherin attitude.
Geoff:
Harry has used the book to produce good results. As has been
observed, he has had the ability to translate the information in
the book into the correct end-product and that has involved his
own skill. You can give me a detailed recipe book and I will still
make a pig's ear of the resulting meal... as can Neville.
Magpie:
But clearly in canon, imo, this *isn't* what Harry is being praised
for and he knows it. Slughorn says things like, "Wow, adding
peppermint! Great idea!" He begins to filter everything Harry does
in class through the idea of his being a genius. He's specifically
praising the Prince's additions as if Harry thought of them himself.
And in class, Harry is thought to be using the exact tools as
everyone else--the textbook. When he gets better results Slughorn
*thinks* it's becuase he's better at translating the information
into a correct end-product while others make pig's ears, but really
the other kids are using different instructions. So Harry's got the
detailed recipe book and the other kids have bad recipe books, or
not detailed recipe books. They're quite possibly being *better*
students than Harry in doing as well as they do with the
instructions they have.
So however fine it is to use better instructions, Harry is not
deserving of the reputation he gets as being so much better than the
other students. And he hasn't done any of the work you describe
going into your notes in chemistry. Harry does happily take credit
for "improving" the recipes himself instead of just following them.
-m
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