[HPforGrownups] Re: MuggleNet - Godrics Hollow Theory.
Kemper
iam.kemper at gmail.com
Fri Jan 5 17:12:26 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 163460
> sherry wrote:
>
> I believe the charm was broken, the moment Peter told Voldemort where to
> find the Potters. Once the secret keeper betrays the secret, I don't think
> the charm is in effect any longer.
Kemper now:
I'm inferring you to mean that the Fidelius Charm works based on the
loyalty of the Secret Keeper. If so, I don't like that implication.
It would take away the emotional power of the spell, making the
spell's strength based on the Peter's loyalty to the Potters rather
than the Potter's faith in Peter.
Yes, I know that the Potters first thought for their SK was Sirius and
not Peter. But, the Potters made Peter their SK based on Sirius'
suggestion. And they had every faith in him.
> Violet wrote:
> I do believe that ... Lily and James wouldn't refuse to have [Dumbledore] know about their
> whereabouts. Now, we know everyone thought Sirius was the Secret-Keeper so
> Dumbledore didn't hear the address directly from the Secret-Keeper's mouth,
> but perhaps he read it (just like Harry did in the beginning of OotP).
> Having been handed the small piece of paper, he showed Hagrid as well. To
> Dumbledore that wasn't a betrayal to the Potters seeing as how he blindly
> trusted Hagrid ...
>
>
> Sherry replied:
> I don't think Dumbledore could have shown the paper to Hagrid. If
> Dumbledore received the secret this way, I think he had to have been meant
> to know it, and if Hagrid wasn't meant to know, I imagine he couldn't have
> read the paper. But my basic theory is that once the secret keeper betrayed
> the Potters secret, anyone could have found the family. and if, as Carol
> believes, Godric's Hollow was Dumbledore's house which he loaned to the
> Potters, he would have known where it was as soon as the secret keeper charm
> died.
Kemper now:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, Sherry.
It sounds like you are saying that if Dumbledore had a piece of paper
with the Potter location written on it that Dumbledore /could not/
have shown the piece of paper to Hagrid because the secret was not
written for Hagrid. If that's so, why would Moody burn the piece of
paper with 12 Grimmauld Place written on it?
If you are saying that Dumbledore /would not/ share the paper with
Hagrid without explicit instruction to do so from the Potters
themselves, then I totally agree. I think Violet's suggestion that
Dumbledore would do that paints Dumbledore in a poor, if not bad,
light.
Kemper
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