MuggleNet - Godrics Hollow Theory.

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 163468

---  "kibakianakaya" <Lana.Dorman at ...> wrote:
>
> > 
> > sherry now:
> > 
> > I believe the charm was broken, the moment Peter 
> > told Voldemort where to find the Potters.  Once the
> > secret keeper betrays the secret, I don't think
> > the charm is in effect any longer.
> > 
> >
> Lilygale here:
> Interesting thought, but I'm having trouble buying it.
> A Secret Keeper obviously can let other people in on 
> the secret.  For example, that is how Harry found out 
> that headquarters of the Order are at 12 Grimmauld 
> Place. 

bboyminn:

Ah, but you are ignoring THE most critical word 'betray'.
When Dumbledore tells Harry the location of the 
Headquarters Order of the Phoenix, he is not betraying
anyone or anything. He is simply expanding the Secret
amoung those who would, should, and do need to know
the Secret. Dumbledore is still being completely
faithful to the intent of the Secret.

> Lilygale continues:
>
> Is there something about the Fidelius Charm itself that
> recognizes an enemy of the people for whom the Charm is
> cast? But if that were the case, how did the traitor 
> Pettigrew become Secret Keeper in the first place?
>

bboyminn:

Is there something in the Secret Keeper Charm that
recognises an enemy? Well, yes, that 'something' is
called 'magic'. It is crystal clear that the greatest
threat to the Potters is Voldemort and those assisting
him. The Potter are specifically hiding from Voldemort.
So, it seems crystal clear who the enemy is from the 
very beginning. And once again, keep in mind that we
are dealing with 'magic' not 'logic'. 

As to how Peter could /become/ Secret Keeper, why not?
He has a specific Secret and he hasn't betrayed that
specific Secret; yet. He may not have even known himself
that he would indeed betray the Potters. He didn't ask
to be the Secret Keeper, he was appointed. Certainly,
he consented, but I don't see how the magic of the 
Charm could possibly come into play before the fact. 

Before the fact, there is no 'fidelity' to breach, and
after the fact, it's too late. Yet, even immediately
after the fact, when the fidelity is finally there, 
Peter does not immediately breach it, so the Charm is
not immediately broken. Being a 'rat' is not enough,
it takes an actually act of infidelity to break the 
Charm (in my view). 


As a very very side note; a strange thought just hit me,
as strange thoughts often do. I've speculated in the past
about what would happen if the Secret Keeper Charm on
12 Grimmauld Place became true again. If the headquarters
moves back in, could that reactivate the Secret Keeper 
Charm? 

Now if it becoming true can reactivate it, then can 
renewed Fidelity also reactivate the Charm? Let's say in
the final battle, though circumstances beyond my immediate 
imagination, Peter renews his fidelity in the Potters. 
Somehow he aids Harry in a way that magically represents 
'fidelity'. Now as Voldemort and Harry a face to face for
the final battle, Harry disappears from the eyes of all, 
with the exception of those who know the Potter's 
original Secret. Now, a very visible Voldemort is 
battling a very invisible Harry. A Harry concealed by 
the renewed Secret Keeper Charm. That could certainly 
turn things to Harry's advantage.

I'm not sure if I believe it, in fact, it is probably too
unlikely and unworkable toward resolving the storyline,
but you must admit it is a strange ponderance.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn