MuggleNet - Godrics Hollow Theory.

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No: HPFGUIDX 163475

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "kibakianakaya" <Lana.Dorman@> wrote:
> >
> > > 
> > > sherry now:
> > > 
> > > I believe the charm was broken, the moment Peter 
> > > told Voldemort where to find the Potters.
> > > 
> > >
> > Lilygale here:
> > Interesting thought, but I'm having trouble buying it.
> > A Secret Keeper obviously can let other people in on 
> > the secret.  For example, that is how Harry found out 
> > that headquarters of the Order are at 12 Grimmauld 
> > Place. 
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> When Dumbledore tells Harry the location of the 
> Headquarters Order of the Phoenix, he is not betraying
> anyone or anything. He is simply expanding the Secret
> amoung those who would, should, and do need to know
> the Secret. 
> 
> > Lilygale continues:
> >
> > Is there something about the Fidelius Charm itself that
> > recognizes an enemy of the people for whom the Charm is
> > cast? But if that were the case, how did the traitor 
> > Pettigrew become Secret Keeper in the first place?
> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Is there something in the Secret Keeper Charm that
> recognises an enemy? Well, yes, that 'something' is
> called 'magic'. It is crystal clear that the greatest
> threat to the Potters is Voldemort and those assisting
> him. 

KJ now:
Alright. But then, why would the charm not be broken as soon as it was
cast? Peter IS assisting Voldemort. And he did NOT just up and decide
one Friday night to go to the Dark Lord and hand the Potters over; he
had been spying for Voldy Shorts for a /year/.

How on earth could the charm NOT consider him an enemy?

And furthermore, what would happen if someone in the Order who knew
the secret about GP suddenly became a traitor of his/her own free
will? Would the house just appear, the Charm completely dissolved?
Granted, it is a good mark for DDM!Snape if this is actual the case
for the charm and the house didn't appear, but that seems very very
risky. The whole idea of the SK's actual loyalty coming into play in
the dissolution of the charm doesn't float in this pond, sorry.


I would like to propose a thought in this discussion.
Steve mentioned that Dumbledore was 'expanding' the circle of people
who knew the Secret about GP. If we pretend for the moment that the
loyalty of the SK and anyone he/she tells, writes, etc is not
connected with the dissolution (I like that word) charm, isn't is
possible that Peter telling Voldy simply expanded the circle of people
knowing about the Potters' hiding place (assuming that the intentions
of the members of the circle don't come into play)?

Yes, then we get into when the charm actually broke (which I think was
with the destruction of the house, but I'm not arguing with anyone on
that.) But isn't it possible that the charm is as simple as we all
thought back when PoA was released? (what was it, '98?)

~KJ,
enjoying good food for thought at my local wireless cafe