Do you agree? (Harry as Horcrux)
justcarol67
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Sat Jan 13 19:49:59 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 163733
Geoff:
> I belong to the "Harry is not a Horcrux" wing of HPFGU. This topic
has been aired many times since HBP emerged. You might find some help
if you enter "Harry is a Horcrux" or "Harry as Horcrux" into the
Search box. It will certainly give you possible threads to look at
and follow through.
>
> HHH. (Happy Horcrux Hunting).
Carol adds:
I agree that neither Harry nor his scar is a Horcrux, partly for the
reason Steve mentioned upthread (Dumbledore, who is telling Harry
everything he needs to know about defeating Voldemort and hunting for
Horcruxes, would not mislead him if he so much as suspected a scar
Horcrux) but also because I believe that Nagini is indeed a Horcrux,
as DD suggested. I also believe that Voldemort would not have
deliberately made Harry a Horcrux (he was trying to kill the Prophecy
Boy and, possibly, to make a last Horcrux with the soul bit from his
murder) and that a Horcrux must be created deliberately, at any point
after the murder because the soul of an unrepentant murderer doesn't
heal itself, and requires a complex spell cast after the fact. (It's
evidently difficult, esoteric Dark magic, not something every wizard,
or even every Dark wizard, could or would do.) I believe that, just as
Dumbledore said, Harry acquired some of Dumbledore's *powers* when
Voldemort marked him as his equal at Godric's Hollows, but that those
powers come from a drop of (magical) blood that entered the open wound
on his forehead, not from a soul bit that somehow possessed him (we
know that he's not possessed and we know that Voldemort performed no
spell other than the deflected AK on Harry.)
On a side note, there's no proof that Tom Riddle created one or more
Horcruxes at sixteen, as some posters seem to take for granted. His
questions to Slughorn, and his unchanged appearance, indicate that he
had not yet done so. Certainly, the ring was not yet a Horcrux or he
wouldn't have been wearing it. I don't think that the diary, though it
contained one or more memories and was enchanted to be interactive
(rather like the portraits, the Sorting Hat, and the Marauder's Map)
was a Horcrux at this point. For the record, I think that Tom Riddle
met Grindelwald before Grindelwald's defeat by DD in 1945 and learned
how to make a Horcrux from him. (Grindelwald, having a Horcrux of his
own, would have thought that it was safe to apprentice the boy.
Wrong!) Sorry that point has nothing to do with Harry, but I thought
I'd throw it in since it relates to Horcruxes in general.
To Richie or anyone else not burned out on this often-raised topic, I
would suggest narrowing your search using the Advanced Search option.
Use something along the lines of "Horcrux!Harry" or "Harry Horcrux
scar" as search terms for the body of the message and "Harry Horcrux"
as the search term for the message title (no quotation marks since
you're not looking for an exact phrase--I'm only using them to set off
the seacch terms here).
Carol, firmly believing that the Horcrux hunt will *not* culminate in
Harry's discovery that he or his scar is a Horcrux or in his
self-sacrifice to destroy a soul bit in himself
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