Slytherin's Horcrux (was:Hogwarts Houses Unite!)
justcarol67
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Tue Jan 16 17:11:14 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 163835
Betsy Hp:
> I'm not really married to any particular methodology -- just
> *something* to get members of each House working together! <g> But
> it may be that rather than a *set* rule of how a horcrux gets
> destroyed (ie: Luna the Ravenclaw, Harry the Halfblood) each student
> will have an original connection to the Horcrux.
>
> So for example, Magpie's idea about Regulus charming the locket to
> respond only to a (pureblood?) member of the House of Black will
> bring Draco into destroy (or make vulnerable) that horcrux. But
Zach will come into play with the Hufflepuff cup for an entirely
different
> reason.
>
> I do like the idea of Harry having a special connection with
> Voldemort proper (I suppose that means I like the Horcrux!Harry
> theory?) and that being a big reason he was able to so easily
destroy the diary. But the diary was really linked to Tom Riddle, not
to any Founder or even Hogwarts in the end. So there was a personal
> connection there that I'm not sure the other Horcruxes (at least,
the Founder specific ones) will have. <snip>
Carol responds:
While I agree that House unity will play a role and that Zacharias
Smith is related to Hepzibah smith (and conceivably the Heir of
Hufflepuff--note how snooty his father is), I don't think that Harry's
destruction of the diary Horcrux resulted from any special abilities
(other than loyalty to Dumbledore, which summoned Fawkes, who must
have been ordered by DD to take along the Sorting hat, in which DD had
concealed the Sword of Gryffindor) and the courage of a true
Gryffindor, which enabled him to kill the Basilisk and have its fang
available to stab the diary. and, of course, luck or instinct prompted
him to stab it and destroy it. The venom may or may not have helped.
(BTW, he doesn't repeatedly and murderously stab it as he does in the
film--once is sufficient.) I think that Harry was able to destroy it
so "easily" (after undergoing the ordeal of killing the Basilisk with
Fawkes's help) because the diary was always intended to be
interactive. Unlike the ring, and presumably the other magical objects
that were made into Horcruxes, it would not need additional
protections. It wasn't hidden; it was given into Lucius Malfoy's
keeping to be used at an appropriate time. The others (except Nagini)
exist solely to anchor Voldmort's soul to the earth. That's the whole
reason for creating a Horcrux. It was, IMO, pretty stupid to turn an
interactive object into a Horcrux (or, alternatively, to make it
interactive at the same time it was made a Horcrux--sorry, Mike. It
makes no sense.) At any rate, he didn't hide the diary as he hid the
others, and he could hardly put a curse on it to prevent it's being
used or opened as it was *intended* to be used. That's why Harry could
destroy it so easily, in contrast to Dumbledore, who was cursed by the
ring when he dared to crack it open and release the soul bit.
For that reason, I don't think that he'll need a Ravenclaw and a
Hufflepuff to help him destroy the cup and the tiara or wand or
whatever the Ravenclaw Horcrux is. Nor do I think that Draco, part
Black though he is, will play a role in destroying the locket Horcrux.
If all that's required to destroy it is to open it, wouldn't Regulus
already have done so? And if it were already de-Horcruxed by his
opening it, why would he seal it again? IMO, it's probably cursed like
the ring, and whoever gets past the seal that Voldemort placed on it
will suffer a fate similar to Dumbledore's unless they're a Dark Arts
expert like Snape or a curse breaker like Bill Weasley and can figure
out a way to get around it. (Personally, I half-expect Bill to destroy
it and be killed in the process. I don't think a near-death in HBP
rules him out as a victim in DH.)
Also, If Regulus charmed the locket so that no one but a Black could
open it, his father or mother would surely have opened it out of mere
curiosity. (It's obviously an heirloom of Slytherin, right?) And he
couldn't risk having Death Eater Bellatrix or DE-wife Narcissa open it
if they were guests in the house. And, again, if he'd already opened
it himself, somehow surviving the experience, why would he lock it
again? I'm sure that Voldemort locked it himself as an additional
level of protection, with a curse as a last resort for anyone who got
past the other protections (Inferi, green potion, locking spell).
Carol, sure that Zacharias and Luna the Ravenclaw and Draco will all
play a part in DH but equally sure they won't be opening or otherwise
destroying any Horcruxes
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