Schrödinger's Horcrux Hunt (was:Re: Slytherin's Horcrux (was:Hogwarts Houses..
horridporrid03
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Tue Jan 16 23:06:03 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 163849
> >>Betsy Hp:
> > I'm not really married to any particular methodology -- just
> > *something* to get members of each House working together! <g>
> > <snip>
> > I do like the idea of Harry having a special connection with
> > Voldemort proper (I suppose that means I like the Horcrux!Harry
> > theory?) and that being a big reason he was able to so easily
> > destroy the diary.
> > <snip>
> >>Carol responds:
> While I agree that House unity will play a role and that Zacharias
> Smith is related to Hepzibah smith (and conceivably the Heir of
> Hufflepuff--note how snooty his father is), I don't think that
> Harry's destruction of the diary Horcrux resulted from any special
> abilities (other than loyalty to Dumbledore, which summoned Fawkes,
> who must have been ordered by DD to take along the Sorting hat, in
> which DD had concealed the Sword of Gryffindor) and the courage of
> a true Gryffindor, which enabled him to kill the Basilisk and have
> its fang available to stab the diary. and, of course, luck or
> instinct prompted him to stab it and destroy it.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
Right, but that sudden decision to stab the book is exactly what I'm
talking about. Luck, instinct, whatever you want to call it, Harry
was able to come up with (on the fly, no less) a methodolgy to
destroy a horcrux completely with no injury to himself or others.
Something Dumbledore was unable to do. So that's where I see a
possibility of a special connection.
> >>Carol:
> I think that Harry was able to destroy it so "easily" (after
> undergoing the ordeal of killing the Basilisk with Fawkes's help)
> because the diary was always intended to be interactive. Unlike the
> ring, and presumably the other magical objects that were made into
> Horcruxes, it would not need additional protections. It wasn't
> hidden; it was given into Lucius Malfoy's keeping to be used at an
> appropriate time.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
Wait, do we *know* this, or are you making some educated leaps? I
mean, just because Lucius *chose* to treat the diary in a rather
cavalier manner doesn't mean that's how Voldemort *intended* the
diary to be treated. (Wasn't Voldemort upset with Lucius for what
Lucius did with the diary?)
I'd say that we don't really know what extra protections were on the
diary. There may have been a dozen doozies, but the use of the fang
managed to bypass them all (lucky Harry, again <g>).
> >>Carol:
> For that reason, I don't think that he'll need a Ravenclaw and a
> Hufflepuff to help him destroy the cup and the tiara or wand or
> whatever the Ravenclaw Horcrux is. Nor do I think that Draco, part
> Black though he is, will play a role in destroying the locket
> Horcrux.
> <snip>
> (Personally, I half-expect Bill to destroy it and be killed in the
> process. I don't think a near-death in HBP rules him out as a
> victim in DH.)
Betsy Hp:
Harry and gang step back and let the adults take care of everything?
I don't see that sort of thing occuring, frankly. I think Harry will
be front and center and he'll be surrounded by peers, not adult
members of the Order. (McGonagall didn't help the Trio protect the
Stone after all.)
> >>Carol:
> Also, If Regulus charmed the locket so that no one but a Black could
> open it, his father or mother would surely have opened it out of
> mere curiosity. (It's obviously an heirloom of Slytherin, right?)
> And he couldn't risk having Death Eater Bellatrix or DE-wife
> Narcissa open it if they were guests in the house.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
I doubt Regulus expected to hold onto the locket for all that long.
But even so, the Black house is stuffed to the gills with ancient
things covered in snakes. One locket isn't going to stand out.
Plus, the family Black was just entering into their death throes.
One son dead, the other locked away in Azkaban: I doubt the parental
Blacks were around for too much longer, and probably not in a state
to go poking through display shelves.
> >>Carol, sure that Zacharias and Luna the Ravenclaw and Draco will
> all play a part in DH but equally sure they won't be opening or
> otherwise destroying any Horcruxes
Betsy Hp:
Again, I'm working in the dark (or with Schrodinger's cat ::waves at
Ken; wonders how he did that "o" thing::) so I'm not really *sure* of
anything. However, I think it'd make for a more efficient story if
House unity was tied in some way to the Horcrux hunt. But yeah, it
doesn't *have* to be through the horcrux destruction. It could be
throught finding the horcruxes, or maybe making them vulnerable for
destruction.
And really, there's no need for it to be *set* way either. Draco
(Slytherin) helps *destroy* the Slytherin horcrux. Zach (Hufflepuff)
helps *find* the Hufflepuff horcrux. Luna (Ravenclaw) helps
*identify* the Ravenclaw horcrux. And Ginny (Gryffindor) helps Harry
*survive* the destruction of the Gryffindor horcrux. How do you like
them cats? <g>
Betsy Hp
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