Would Harry forgiving Snape be character growth for him? Re: CHAPDISC: HBP 29,

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Betsy Hp:
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> The issue here is, I can't think of any themes an ESE!Snape would 
> reflect.  Not that have been in the story all ready.  I also don't 
> see how an ESE!Snape adds anything to Harry's story.  It turns 
what I 
> see as a tale of growth into the Emperor's New Clothes.  Which I 
> don't see as the story JKR is telling.  So this is the place where 
> it's hard to continue the play-acting.  ESE!Snape belongs in a 
> different story altogether. (IMO, of course. <g>)
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Alla:

Um, not attempting to change your mind or anything, but do feel a 
need to ask for clarification, since despite this point was raised 
more than once in the past, I do not remember coherent answer to 
this ( not just yours, anybody)

So, yes just want to understand your position, so please bear with 
me.

The question is why do you not see that Harry forgiving Snape, evil 
Snape or any less than completely DD!M Snape would be a character 
growth for Harry.

I mean, right now, Harry **hates** Snape, really really hates him 
and I would imagine that it would take lots of courage and character 
to forgive a man, who contributed to Harry growing up an orphan, who 
treated him badly in classroom, who killed his mentor, etc.

I mean if you are going to tell me that this is a **different** 
character growth for Harry that the one you imagine will happen in 
the story, that the one you would want to occur, that is fair enough.

But what I do want to know is how Harry moving from hate of Snape to 
forgiving the Snape is not the character growth, but Emperor new 
clothes as you said.

Again, of course that assumes Snape that you do not buy, I 
understand that, but could we pretend that it is Snape in this story 
just for this one?

And then let's look at Harry and tell me how it is not a character 
growth to forgive a sinner, whom right now Harry passionately hates.

For example, let's suppose we are talking about Lucius Malfoy and 
Harry and let's suppose at the end of the book Harry forgives Lucius 
( we do agree that Harry has staff to forgive Lucius for as well, 
yes, maybe not as painful, but painful enough?), are you saying that 
this would not character growth for Harry?

What would be the difference then if Harry forgives Snape?

I mean, sure, that excludes the character growth that many DD!M 
Snape theorists would like to see for Harry - to see Snape for the 
man he truly is - faithful Dumbledore soldier. Snape being Evil or 
just Less than completely DD!M Snape assumes that Harry IS right 
about Snape being a bad man, to put a long story short.

On the other hand, it will make Harry see that anybody is capable of 
redemption, that he just as DD should give people second chances and 
the most importantly, it teaches Harry that he should not be like 
Snape, should not hold grudges.

Heee, Harry's most important lesson to not ever become Snape, 
forgive him and move on, and leave one of his life nightmares 
Severus Snape behind. Yes, that is just me speculating, but honestly 
want to know about character growth part.

Thanks,

Alla