Thoughts on the specific wording of the prophecy
justcarol67
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Tue Jul 10 16:49:17 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 171524
Bart:
> Either way, they cannot be recombined with Morty; otherwise,
wouldn't it be better to let the soul pieces roam free than to put
them in objects, which can be captured and destroyed?
>
> Consider, there must be a reason why even Dark magicians shy from
making horcruxes. The most obvious reason is that, while it makes you
harder to kill, with a piece of your soul gone, you are not "you" any
more. I do admit that I am taking an educated guess that, when your
body dies, if you have a horcrux, then the soul piece in your body is
gone, and it is the soul piece that is in the horcrux that keeps you
from going beyond the Veil.
Carol responds:
That's not quite the way I understand it. IMO, if your body is
destroyed and have even one Horcrux, the soul piece that was inside
you is "anchored" to the earth. So Vapormort was the damaged soul
remnant that was inside Voldie before he (his soul) was ripped from
his body at Godric's Hollow. The Horcruxes prevented the damaged main
soul from going beyond the Veil.
What happens to the soul bit in a Horcrux when the Horcrux is
destroyed is unclear. DD speaks of the soul bits from the diary and
ring as having been destroyed. Whether they go beyond the Veil or
simply cease to exist is unclear (I think it must be the former since
the soul is by definition immortal), but they cease to function as
Horcruxes. However, as long as Voldie has even one remaining Horcrux,
the main soul, which was Vapormort but is now inside his reconstituted
or resurrected body, can't go beyond the Veil.
The soul piece in Voldie's body before GH is not "gone," IOW. It was
prevented from "going" by the existence of the Horcruxes. In fact,
that's the whole point of a Horcrux; it "anchors" the main soul to the
earth and prevents the wizard from dying regardless of what happens to
his body.
Carol, who thinks that DD defeated Grindelwald by destroying his
Horcrux and making him mortal (causing the main soul to leave his body
when his body died, however that may have happened)
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